My Purely Evil, Absolutely Most Powerful, Ultimate Battle Power Guide

[最強のフュージョン]

Ultimate Battle Power Guide

Decided to try scaling the late Boo arc onward with Pure Boo as the strongest Boo like the anime portrays. I managed to make it work without weakening Gotenks and Gohan.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Daima calling Goku the strongest has me tempted to do this, but I’d follow the V-Jump instead and make SSJ3 Goku (Late BS) = Boohan with Kid Boo comfortably above them. I like it better because Mr Boo > Gohan & Gotenks is really weird.

What’s really holding me back from accepting the Goku hax (besides common sense) is the numbers. If I don’t make Goku so strong, I can fit RoF 1st form Freeza at 530 billion, which is neat.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

I figured I might as well go full batshit and go with what the anime implying SS Goku ~ Ultimate Gohan and SS2 Goku already surpassing Boohan.

Mr. Boo being that strong is weird, but everyone improves as Boo just stays the same for GT and most of Super, so it works well enough. Nothing flat out contradicts it.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I figured I might as well go full batshit and go with what the anime implying SS Goku ~ Ultimate Gohan and SS2 Goku already surpassing Boohan.

Mr. Boo being that strong is weird, but everyone improves as Boo just stays the same for GT and most of Super, so it works well enough. Nothing flat out contradicts it.

Yeah, nothing wrong with sticking to what the anime shows to be true.

SSJ2 Goku ~ Kid Buu (Initial) >> Enraged Buuhan

Did you go that far? Where you allow Kid Buu's suppressed power to surpass Super Vegetto's power? Now that's next level stuff.

 

[SIAD]

From my cell phone I cannot see the link for the list of power levels.

Can someone send it to me?

 

[最強のフュージョン]

Yeah, nothing wrong with sticking to what the anime shows to be true.

SSJ2 Goku ~ Kid Buu (Initial) >> Enraged Buuhan

Did you go that far? Where you allow Kid Buu's suppressed power to surpass Super Vegetto's power? Now that's next level stuff.

Don't really see how that could work when Super Saiyan Goku was comparable to Ultimate Gohan. around 2 times Ultimate Gohan wouldn't be enough to reach enraged Boohan's level when that actually forced Vegetto exert some effort. I have SS3 Goku(Post Vegetto) close to Super Vegetto, but still weaker.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Make SSJ2 more than 2x.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

That would go against the point of the guide, which is to try and fit everything into a single system that pulls from all avenues of evidence. The Super Saiyan 2 multiplier is set by the Super Exciting Guide, with nothing to contradict it, so I must adhere to it.

 

[Power Level Guy]

SSJ2 Goku > Enraged Buuhan > SSJ Goku ~ Ultimate Gohan directly contradicts Super Saiyan 2 being a 2x multiplier.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

The Super Exciting Guide supersedes any implication present in anime exclusive dialogue as Toriyama had more involvement with the former. That all being said, Pure Boo's planet destroying attack was stronger than enraged Boohan, so Goku can in fact say Pure Boo is the strongest, in addition to all those other qualities Goku would have been able to quantify from the fight he had been engaged in.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Why would a supplementary guide supersede source material?

 

[最強のフュージョン]

Toriyama had more involvement in the supplementary material than a single line of anime dialogue. Said single line isn't going to undo the rule laid out by the Super Exciting Guide. If that's not a good enough answer, Zamasu says Super Saiyan 2 Goku's power is tens of times greater than his base form. That lines up with the 100 times increase the Super Saiyan 2 multiplier is stated to be by the super exciting guide.

 

[Power Level Guy]

So your source material is the supplemental guide?

If you are going to scale the manga do that, but if you are going to scale the anime, you should pick one source material. A supplemental guide cannot be source material.

Either SSJ Goku was suppressed against Ultimate Gohan or Super Saiyan 2 is more than 2x.

Kid Buu Suppressed is stated to be above Enraged Buuhan.

There's no way around that.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

No, it's stated that Pure Boo is above Boohan, not that suppressed Pure Boo is above Boohan. Goku already has experience with Pure Boo's strongest attack, so what he says is true. Goku's fight with Pure Boo demonstrated the latter qualities he describes.

Goku most certainly isn't suppressed. That's made apparent in Goku's expressions and the fact that he has no reason to suppress himself.

This isn't "manga" list or an "anime" list. It's as I describe. A combined list designed to pull from all sources to create an overarching continuity.

It's much more sensible to assume Goku is referring to Boo's overall power when making that comment based on Goku's performance against Ultimate Gohan and what we know the Super Saiyan 2 multiplier to be and that can be argued because he's seen Pure Boo's strongest attack up to that point.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Kid Buu is already the strongest Buu and SSJ2 Goku matches him. Are you saying Buu doesn't power up after that?

 

[最強のフュージョン]

He's the strongest Boo overall, which Goku can say as he's seen his strongest attack. Goku can remark about his speed and regeneration after having fought him. Goku isn't necessarily saying this suppressed Boo the strongest one so far, and frankly that wouldn't even make sense as, like I pointed out, he's seen Pure Boo's strongest attack.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Everybody wants SSJ2 to be 4-5x SSJ but nobody wants to do a DBS/GT list with it…

 

[Power Level Guy]

He's the strongest Boo overall, which Goku can say as he's seen his strongest attack. Goku can remark about his speed and regeneration after having fought him. Goku isn't necessarily saying this suppressed Boo the strongest one so far, and frankly that wouldn't even make sense as, like I pointed out, he's seen Pure Boo's strongest attack.

When did Kid Buu showcase SSJ3 tier power and speed while facing SSJ2 Goku?

Everybody wants SSJ2 to be 4-5x SSJ but nobody wants to do a DBS/GT list with it…

Yeah I think DBS and probably GT go by a 2x boost.

I think there’s a revelation to be had regarding Z-Sword Gohan, Fat Buu, and Goku’s power relation depending on the boost. I was thinking about this the other day. Let’s see.

With a 2x SSJ2 boost and a 4x SSJ3 boost.

SSJ3 Goku 100
Fat Buu 75
SSJ2 Gohan 50 or 60
SSJ Gohan 25 or 30
SSJ2 Goku 25


Interesting, with a 2x boost Z-Sword Gohan has to essentially match Majin Vegeta merely as a Super Saiyan or surpass him.

Not sure is many would agree with that.

 

[SIAD]

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I really liked it.

So Dr. Raichi is > Cooler's Phantom Warrior?

I always had Dr. Raichi at Android #20 level, I thought he was a weakling, but he had a barrier that protected him that was very powerful.

Edited:

I watched the OVA again and Raichi is actually a weakling, Vegeta SSJ throws a small attack at him that enters Raichi's shield and destroys it completely.

Raichi's shield is much harder to destroy than any Phantom Warrior, but its actual power is insignificant, which keeps it at the same level as Android #20.