Nail vs Burta

[Southern Gothic]

A lot of people have Nail rivaling the moat of the Ginyu's. I do not, so I see Burta taking this. But I love hearing the opinion of others.

So does Burta's self proclaimed speed make the difference here? I think so...

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I think so. I put the Ginyus at 45K and Nail is only at 42K not that big of a difference but Burter moved so fast he caught the Dragonball Vegeta threw before he, Gohan, and Krillin could even look in that general direction and came back before they turned to face the Ginyu Force again.

I give this to Burter for his slight power advantage but his speed is the real advantage and game clincher.

 

[Pakl]

The mid Ginyu are 40,000 and Nail has a slight advantage.. Burter's speed would give him the shot though but Nail wins if he uses some quick blast

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Nail could use an amplify attack to beat him . Burter should win this considering he has the speed advantage.

 

[SSJ2]

Nail takes this. I'd like to think that his skill will help him to manage Burter's speed.

 

[Southern Gothic]

What about when Vegeta was going to throw down with Nail outside of Super Kami Guru's place? He had no problem telling Nail to suck ballz, yet at the same time was totally freaked by the Ginyu's showing up moments later.

I always got the impression that Recoome, Jiece and Burter > Nail due to Vegeta's attitude towards both.

 

[SSJ2]

Vegeta thought he could at least take on Recoome, yet got destroyed.

Vegeta believing that he could take on Nail is not all that important in my opinion. His sensing abilities had not yet fully developed as he didn't even know if the Ginyu Force members were stronger than himself. Either way, he does know how powerful Ginyu is.

 

[Southern Gothic]

That's true. The first time he showed a real atune sensing ability was when Goku showed up. Vegeta was the only one who knew Goku's hidden power against the Ginyu's, but that was post Zenkai from the Senzue.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

What about when Vegeta was going to throw down with Nail outside of Super Kami Guru's place? He had no problem telling Nail to suck ballz, yet at the same time was totally freaked by the Ginyu's showing up moments later.

I always got the impression that Recoome, Jiece and Burter > Nail due to Vegeta's attitude towards both.

Ginyus had been his superiors, in both rank and power, for years and he was biased against Nameks.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I think Vegeta's shock/fear of the Ginyu Force came from their reputation. Frieza's Special Forces that he calls for whenever things get a little out of control. Like SSJ2 said Vegeta still isn't the best at ki sensing just yet. He's not really familiar with people who know how to suppress and raise their ki at will (Nail, Gohan, & Krillin). But I still stand by Burter winning and if Nail actually had to fight Vegeta he would've beat his ass like Reacoome did.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

What about when Vegeta was going to throw down with Nail outside of Super Kami Guru's place? He had no problem telling Nail to suck ballz, yet at the same time was totally freaked by the Ginyu's showing up moments later.
I always got the impression that Recoome, Jiece and Burter > Nail due to Vegeta's attitude towards both.

Nail wouldn't have been releasing his full power when standing around, which is supported by Freeza being surprised by Nail's power when he released it to fight him.

On topic, I'd say Nail should take this. I'd say that Reacoom's external damage from Vegeta's Ki blast (which wasn't implied to be amplified) should place the 3 Ginyus closer to Vegeta's 30k than to Goku's 60k, which was enough to solo all 3 of them with ease by Ginyu's estimations. Personally, I place them all at 40k, so unless Burta's speed advantage can prove to be a game-changing one, Nail takes this.