Natasha's theory on LSSJ multiplier

Natasha Romanoff

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This is just a theory, also this doesn't have to do with actual gaps but with personal gaps I have. If you have more inflated gaps, then, more than likely it would not agree with you.

How big it was LSSJ multiplier?
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First of all, the date of release of Movie 8 was in March 6, 1992; few days prior to Goku showing his full power against Cell.
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To start this thread I would use as reference the fact that this movie came out a few days before Cell Games 100% Goku came out to be, therefore, he is not available in this movie.

Piccolo is the only character I would left out as his strength is quite confusing, Imperfect Cell broke his neck, yet he is able to somehow withstand to Broly accompained with the Saiyans. Post Rosat Piccolo's strength (which I don't think it has to be quite great) is far from being revealed yet, so that's a non-factor on here, at most Toei should have theorized an strength based on Trunks' reaction but this conjecture is quite vague.

When it comes to Gohan, Trunks and Vegeta, in the case of Trunks & Vegeta they're undeniably their 1st Post Rosat selves as that is the last version the viewers has to rely on and appeared on screen. I think Gohan and Trunks are equals and Vegeta is a little bit above of them which respects what was already established in the Anime. Vegeta could still get conscious and could stand up to bring energy while Gohan, Trunks and Piccolo were mooped on the floor.

The movie left us to believe that Goku was far ahead of Vegeta as he got excited when RSSJ Broly tanked Super Vegeta's attacks.
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Goku is clearly the greatest (which also respects to the Anime) and I think Toei based him on his warm up version of his fight with Cell. He states that RSSJ Broly's power is greater than them (including himself, Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta & Piccolo) and RSSJ Broly's transition to LSSJ Broly is similar to Semi Perfect Cell to Perfect Cell, so we should estimate a power based on this and the fact that Broly took Vegeta's kick better than Cell).

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Cell should have been quite damaged against Trunks which lowered him to his initial level, he can still withstand Android 16 (which is at the same level of Imperfect Cell, however he also could have been damaged and weakened) punches as if nothing. Perfect Cell's level turned out to be quite greater (as it was expected to be weaker than Super Vegeta's), so I think in Broly's case should be similar. The gap in between RSSJ Broly and LSSJ Broly is the same between Semi Perfect Cell (initial) to Perfect Cell (vs Vegeta), having say that.

Initial SC/damaged SC= 90
SSJ Trunks = 95
SSJ Vegeta = 100
Super Vegeta = 150

Android 16 (Imperfect Cell level) was fairly damaged, so I don't think we can make a fair comparison as to how he compares with weakened 2nd form Cell.
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Scalling wise should be like this:
Initial Semi Cell = 60
SSJ Trunks = 63
SSJ Vegeta = 66
FP Semi Cell = 67.5
SSJ G2 Trunks = 95
SSJ Gohan M8 = 95
Fake ki Cell = 96
SSJ G2 Vegeta = 100
Warm up Perfect Cell = 211
M8 SSJ Goku/warm up Goku = 211
Grade 3 Trunks = 252
Buff Cell (vs Trunks) = 263.75

To be minimalist:
RSSJ Broly = 212
Hypothetical SSJ Broly = 424
LSSJ Broly = 663

Giving him the most:
RSSJ Broly = 252
Hypothetical SSJ Broly = 504
LSSJ Broly = 788

How strong would Broly be in the Cell Games?
SSJ Trunks = 384.864
SSJ Vegeta = 405.12
MSSJ Goku = 506.4
Cell (vs Goku) = 557.04
MSSJ Gohan = 708.96
Cell (vs Gohan) = 708.96
Perfect Cell (FP) = 1,276.128
Buff Cell (FP) = 1,595.16
SPC = 1,914.92
SSJ2 Gohan = 2,126.88

From this perspective I can think as to why Gohan still thinks Broly is a monster even after 7 yrs.

As referencial placements:
Z Sword SSJ Gohan = 1,012
Buu Saga SSJ Goku /Vegeta/Majin Vegeta= 759.6
Buu Saga SSJ Pre Majin Vegeta = 633
Buu Saga SSJ Gohan = 506.4
 
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Natasha Romanoff

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I am reconsidering the option of Trunks being Grade 2 against Semi Perfect Cell. Also, that anime and manga follow different scallings, although, they're minimal.
 
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