Nouva Shenron Vs Beerus

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I have Beerus destroying him but a lot of here underrating him so who wins?

 

[Pakl]

Without the excuse of SSjin Vegetto being relevant due to the statement of Goku to Baby Vegeta, Nouva would one shot him...

I believe GT Base Goku alone could of destroying the entire Z cast.. At most SSjin Goku

 

[Southern Gothic]

I put Beerus on the same level as SSJ4 Goku post Baby Saga. Using statements, this makes him slightly stronger than Nouva Shenron, but Nouva would have the speed advantage. This was the case with their fight towards the end of GT, so I follow the same logic here.

The difference maker is power. SSJ4 has a limit, while Beerus holds all of his power without transforming. And I have yet to see Beerus even come close to depleting his energy.

I give this to Beerus after some difficulty. A battle of attrition, which I see Beerus winning given enough time.

 

[Six Trails]

Without the excuse of SSjin Vegetto being relevant due to the statement of Goku to Baby Vegeta, Nouva would one shot him...

It's not an excuse. You only say that because you have no real argument. Provide real evidence someone surpassed Super Vegetto before SVB1 otherwise what you say isn't fact.

Anyway, Beers wins.

Beers >> SS3 Vegetto (BoG) > SS3 Vegetto (Buu) >= Nuova Shenron ~ SS4 Goku

 

[Pakl]

You know, when Baby transforms into his super state, he tells Goku to watch closely because he would sense the greatest power in the universe and Goku then replies by saying that he is right and that his ki is really the strongest he ever felt.. The thing is Goku doesn't state by himself that Baby is the strongest but more likely reply to Baby that he is right.. The thing is, if Baby would not had mentioned it, Goku might not have said it too

Anyway, GT Base Goku is stronger than Boo so it can't be that Baby is weaker than SSjin Vegetto

Also, you do realise that Shadow Dragons SSjin 4 Goku >>> Baby Arc SSjin 4 Goku?

It's never stated SSjin 3 Vegetto ~ SSjin 4 Goku


SSjin 4 Goku was said to be the strongst possible ki ever to exist

 

[Six Trails]

You know, when Baby transforms into his super state, he tells Goku to watch closely because he would sense the greatest power in the universe and Goku then replies by saying that he is right and that his ki is really the strongest he ever felt.. The thing is Goku doesn't state by himself that Baby is the strongest but more likely reply to Baby that he is right.. The thing is, if Baby would not had mentioned it, Goku might not have said it too

When did he say that?

Also, Vegeta-Baby didn't have the greatest of Saiyan powers until after he transformed, not before. He himself says it.

Anyway, GT Base Goku is stronger than Boo so it can't be that Baby is weaker than SSjin Vegetto

Unfortunately for you, that's not evidence?

Also, you do realise that Shadow Dragons SSjin 4 Goku >>> Baby Arc SSjin 4 Goku?

Based on what?

It's never stated SSjin 3 Vegetto ~ SSjin 4 Goku

It is.

SSjin 4 Goku was said to be the strongst possible ki ever to exist

He wasn't.

 

[Pakl]

Yes he was by Kaioshin

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think that's a dub error.

 

[Event Horizon]

I roll with Whis ~ Si Xing Long > Beerus ~ San Xing Long because I do.

Beerus loses!

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Si Xing Long = Syn Shenron?

 

[Event Horizon]

Si Xing Long = Nuova Shenron
Yi Xing Long = Syn Shenron

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

Nouva stomps him imo. I go with

Whiss = SSJ4 Goku (Shadow Dragons)
Byrrus = SSJ4 Goku (Super 17)
God SSJ Goku > SSJ4 Goku (Power Restored) = 80% SSJ God Goku > Oozaru Baby Vegeta >= Initial SSJ4 Goku

 

[SIAD]

Bills being a destroyer of casual Solar System makes him far above any DBGT character. SSJ4 even hypothetical mergers should not be sufficient to perform such a feat. Therefore Bills won very easily.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I don't think that's a good evidence.

 

[SSJ2]

Si Xing Long obliterates Beerus. Beerus is at best equal to Super Baby Vegeta 2 in my book, I don't have him going much past that.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Congrats, Saiyan! This topic has been picked for our Battle of the Week, and will be discussed on the next podcast! Thanks for being such an active member around here.

 

[Disasters GoOn]

Beerus obliterates Nuova Shenron the same way he obliterated the planet in the first episode of Dragon Ball Super.

So, in other words, it's a pretty epic stomp.

 

[Zoom]

I forgot my own chain, but I think i had

SSj4 Gogeta >>> Super Omega >>> SSj4 Goku (BL) > Whiss > Yi Sheng > Beerus~Super #17 post.

I think Beerus loses.