Pui Pui > SSJ2 Gohan?

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So, i think you all know what's this about so i won't be posting statements. Gohan fills half the meter, Babidi thinks Pui Pui can get energy for the other half, Kaioshin shits a brick to Base Vegeta after seeing SSJ2 Gohan. What do you guys make of this? What's the evidence that contradicts this?
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
What do you guys make of this? What's the evidence that contradicts this?
Base Gohan not being stronger than his SS2 self and not having been suggested to gain any Zenkai, especially with Vegeta's opinion of his power having not changed since his showing at the Budokai.
 

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The anime does adds a scene where Gohan says he feels stronger than ever.

I never understood what power chain people got from this, exactly. SSJ2 Goku >= SSJ2 Kid Gohan >>> Base Goku >>> SSJ2 Teen Gohan >>> SSJ Kids? Makes no fucking sense.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
The anime does adds a scene where Gohan says he feels stronger than ever.
That would completely contradict Vegeta's assessment of Gohan VS Dabura. :toei doing their job as good as ever. :troll2

Also, was that directly after Kibito healed him? If so, he most likely felt that due to the boost back to fully vitality after being completely drained.
 

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It's not a :toei thing unless Gohan fights Dabra in base. No, wait a second...


CC what do you make of the statements in the ship? I know you're a Pui Pui > Kaioshin guy, so the PTSD argument is out of your reach. And what do you make of Base Saiyans being supposed to fill the other half of the meter?
 

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I just write off Shin's amazement at Base Vegeta in comparison to SS2 Gohan or Babidi's estimations about the meter to simply be a typical inconsistency and poor writing.

I wouldn't say this completely writes off the suggestion at Pui Pui > Shin as an inconsistency though, since the argument for the opposite bar Shin's paralysis based on his performance against Boo are quite flimsy, especially when he also survived a battle with Manly GAINZ Boo long before with enough damage to show he did at least take a hit or two. Also, the Base Saiyan > Shin implications still continue with the Yakon fight even after Shin acting as though Vegeta was his first viewing of Saiyan power and the meter estimations had been rectified.
 

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Dabura is a higher level than Pui-Pui and he struggled against Gohan. Dabura can easily defeat Pui-Pui...or not?
 

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I understand that Toriyama wanted for Shin to be amazed by the Saiyan power but that would only work if the Saiyans opponent were strong ones like Dabura not Pui Pui. Sorry [mention]TheallpowerfulPuiPui[/mention]
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Dabura is a higher level than Pui-Pui and he struggled against Gohan. Dabura can easily defeat Pui-Pui...or not?

Kaioshin thought they should gang up on Pocus after Goku said Dabra was easy work, so… :cage
 

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Kaio-Shin also told Gohan to run-away from Boo when Gohan said there might be something he'd be able to do against Boo, but we know what happened there...oh wait
 

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He told Gohan to run before he said he could manage something.
 
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