Pui Pui vs Freeza

[ahill1]

Who wins?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Freeza.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Majin Puipui > Puipui > King Kold

Should be enough to be slightly > or = to Freeza

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

First form Freeza > Goku 90x gravity > Pui Pui > 10x gravity.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Although the 'strongest in the universe' claim is pretty dubious, I highly doubt someone like Freeza would pass under Babidi's radar, so it is possible that Freeza simply wasn't strong enough. For that reason I'll give it to Pui Pui.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Although the 'strongest in the universe' claim is pretty dubious, I highly doubt someone like Freeza would pass under Babidi's radar, so it is possible that Freeza simply wasn't strong enough. For that reason I'll give it to Pui Pui.

How old is Freeza?

 

[Papasmurf]

He didn't age at all in over 2 decades, so he could be centuries old for all we know.

 

[Animelover5487]

Pui Pui wrecks. Kaioshin can one-shot Freeza, while Pui Pui is apparently a threat.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

He didn't age at all in over 2 decades, so he could be centuries old for all we know.

A post from @Kamikaze Pyro

Origin of Freeza’s clan? (roughly Age 550~Age 650?)
--A spontaneous mutation results in a descendant of the space pirate Chilled being born as one of the first of a new hybrid species with tremendous power. In time, the mutant’s son Cold and Cold’s son Freeza use their power to take control of many planets, gathering talented warriors from throughout the universe into a mercenary army under their rule.
[Ref: In the first issue of Viz’s Shonen Jump, released in January 2003, Toriyama says of Freeza’s species that “there aren't many of them, but perhaps they are a new hybrid species that came into existence from an accidental spontaneous mutation in our grandfathers' time.” My suspicion is that “our grandfathers’ time” is some typo or mistranslation and that Toriyama was talking about Freeza’s grandfather, because what relevance do “our” grandfathers have to the question? But there’s no way to know for sure. Still, I’m stubbornly going with what I think is right, though it’s difficult to date when Freeza’s grandfather’s time would be. How old is Freeza? He’s first mentioned in the Daizenshuu 7 timeline in 731, but already seems to have established his land shark business by then, and he looks the same when destroying Planet Vegeta in 737 as he does during the Namek arc in 762, though this is probably due to character design laziness more than anything (and his species might age in ways unnoticeable to us). Freeza’s interest in eternal life could suggest he’s getting on in years. I’m arbitrarily assuming Freeza’s race has an average lifespan not too different from Earthlings, placing the birth of Freeza’s grandfather roughly 100~200 years before Age 731. The explanation of how Freeza started up is from SEG: Character Volume. Chilled is from Episode of Bardock. If we assume Freeza’s race can live hundreds of years, it’s possible Chilled himself is Freeza’s grandfather and the original mutant.]

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8388119/1/
What do you think?

 

[Tapion]

If we consider the Chilled special half-canon, then the Frost Demon Clan is probably thousands of years old.

I remember that i scaled Freeza's age to be somewhere around 80-100 using official stuff, but i can't remember where right now.

 

[Papasmurf]

I always thought Freeza couldn't be that old for his race, considering that his father shows no signs of being way out of his prime due to age despite being obviously much older than him. He also uses pretty childish quirks of speech such as using "boku" when he enters his true form and calls his father "papa," which leads me to think he might not even be an adult for his race at all. His search for immortality doesn't mean much in regards to him being old (since even his father isn't suggested to be that old), especially when Vegeta who's much younger than Freeza and at the prime of his age sought immortality as well.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Babidi said they invade the planet Earth 300 years ago which mean before Freeza was born? Which also mean that there wasn't much stronger fighters at that time except the Saiyajins who are weak as hell.

 

[Six Trails]

Pocus stomps.

 

[Papasmurf]

Babidi said they invade the planet Earth 300 years ago which mean before Freeza was born? Which also mean that there wasn't much stronger fighters at that time except the Saiyajins who are weak as hell.

How does Freeza play into that? He never even visited the Earth until after namek exploded. Neither did any Saiyan until Goku arrived on his spaceship.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Babidi said they invade the planet Earth 300 years ago which mean before Freeza was born? Which also mean that there wasn't much stronger fighters at that time except the Saiyajins who are weak as hell.

How does Freeza play into that? He never even visited the Earth until after namek exploded. Neither did any Saiyan until Goku arrived on his spaceship.

What I meant was, Babidi didn't have a chance to recruit Freeza because he was already on Earth before Freeza was born.

 

[Papasmurf]

Babidi also didn't know what a Super Saiyan was, nor even about Namekians. He's an idiot.

 

[Jerk Store]

Freeza wins, Vegeta barley used his strength in that fight, much less powered up to full and if you think he was at full power in base from the get go... no....

I have base Saiyajins in the Buu arc a little over initial SSJ strength, and Vegeta was definitely not near that against PuiPui.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Babidi also didn't know what a Super Saiyan was, nor even about Namekians. He's an idiot.

Kaioshin overrates Babidi's knowledge.

 

[SSJ2]

Pocus one shots easier than Kaioshin could.

 

[ahill1]

Freeza wins, Vegeta barley used his strength in that fight, much less powered up to full and if you think he was at full power in base from the get go... no....

I have base Saiyajins in the Buu arc a little over initial SSJ strength, and Vegeta was definitely not near that against PuiPui.

I thought you had base Saiyans > Piccolo?