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KING KAI'S PLANET

Piccolo
-weighted: 250.000
-unweighted: 300.000

Tenshinhan: 80.000

Yamcha: 50.000

Chaozu: 10.000

FREEZA SAGA

Freeza 1st form: 530.000

Vegeta: 500.000

Krillin: 150.000

Gohan
-normal: 400.000
-enraged: 1.000.000

Freeza 2nd form
-initial: 1.060.000
-powered up: 1.200.000
-max: 1.400.000

Piccolo
-weighted: 1.250.000
-unweighted: 1.500.000

Freeza 3rd form: 2.250.000

Gohan (post zenkai)
-normal: 1.100.000
-enraged: 1.650.000
-full power blast: 2.200.000

Vegeta (post zenkai): 3.000.000
-full power blast: 6.000.000

Freeza 4th form
-initial: 3.000.000
-warm up: 4.500.000
-no arms: 6.750.000
-half power: 140.000.000
-max: 280.000.000

Goku
-initial: 4.500.000
-max: 6.000.000
-10x KK: 60.000.000
-20x KK: 120.000.000
-spirit bomb: 210.000.000
-SSJ: 300.000.000

MECHA FREEZA SAGA

Vegeta: 7.500.000

Piccolo: 7.000.000

Gohan: 1.100.000

Krillin: 150.000

Tenshinhan: 120.000

Yamcha: 60.000

Chaozu: 13.500

Mecha Freeza
-half power: 160.000.000
-max: 320.000.000

King Cold: 160.000.000

Alternate Trunks
-base: 9.600.000
-SSJ: 480.000.000

Goku
-base: 12.000.000
-SSJ: 600.000.000

LONE WARRIOR

Alternate Gohan (2 arms)
-base: 7.200.000
-SSJ: 360.000.000

Alternate Gohan (1 arm)
-base: 9.000.000
-SSJ: 450.000.000

Alternate Trunks (kid)
-base: 4.800.000
-SSJ: 240.000.000

Alternate Seventeen
-less than half: 400.000.000
-max: 1.000.000.000

Alternate Eighteen: 1.000.000.000

Alternate Trunks (adult)
-base: 9.600.000
-SSJ: 480.000.000

ANDROIDS SAGA

Yamcha: 1.000.000

Krillin: 1.500.000

Tenshinhan: 1.350.000

Gohan: 14.000.000

Goku
-base: 20.000.000
-SSJ: 1.000.000.000
-sick: 500.000.000 and decreasing fast

Vegeta
-base: 21.000.000
-SSJ: 1.050.000.000

Alternate Trunks
-base: 18.000.000
-SSJ: 900.000.000

Piccolo
-weighted: 16.000.000
-unweighted: 800.000.000

Nineteen
-initial: 250.000.000
-post Goku: 500.000.000

Dr Gero
-initial: 600.000.000
-post energies: 650.000.000

Eighteen: 1.350.000.000

Seventeen: 1.500.000.000

Piccolo (post Kami)
-weighted: 1.400.000.000
-unweighted: 1.600.000.000

Imperfect Cell
-initial: 1.200.000.000
-post humans: 3.200.000.000

Sixteen: 3.000.000.000

Semi Cell
-initial: 6.000.000.000
-max: 7.500.000.000

Tenshinhan's neo tri beam: 5.400.000.000

Vegeta (post room)
-base: 120.000.000
-SSJ: 6.000.000.000
-ASSJ: 10.000.000.000
-final flash: 40.000.000.000

Alternate Trunks (post room)
-base: 114.000.000
-SSJ: 5.700.000.000
-ASSJ: 9.500.000.000
-USSJ: 23.750.000.000

Perfect Cell
-initial: 9.000.000.000
-warm up: 20.000.000.000
-buffed: 27.000.000.000

CELL GAMES

Goku
-base: 1.200.000.000
-SSJ warm up: 20.000.000.000
-SSJ half power: 30.000.000.000
-SSJ max: 60.000.000.000

Cell Jrs: 31.500.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 660.000.000
-SSJ: 33.000.000.000

Alternate Trunks
-base: 640.000.000
-SSJ: 32.000.000.000

Piccolo: 27.000.000.000

Perfect Cell
-warm up: 20.000.000.000
-powered up: 67.500.000.000
-true speed: 75.000.000.000
-max: 100.000.000.000
-power weighted: 150.000.000.000
-post zenkai: 180.000.000.000

Gohan
-base: 1.600.000.000
-SSJ: 80.000.000.000
-SSJ2: 200.000.000.000
-post taking blast: 90.000.000.000
-post daddy's encouragement: 160.000.000.000
-final burst: 180.000.000.000

FAT BUU SAGA

Gohan
-base: 1.440.000.000
-SSJ: 72.000.000.000
-SSJ2: 180.000.000.000 (45% of Fat Buu's power)

Goten
-base: 1.200.000.000
-SSJ: 60.000.000.000

Trunks
-base: 1.300.000.000
-SSJ: 65.000.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 1.600.000.000
-SSJ: 80.000.000.000
-SSJ2: 200.000.000.000
-majin: 250.000.000.000

Goku
-base: 2.000.000.000
-SSJ: 100.000.000.000
-SSJ2: 250.000.000.000
-SSJ3: 500.000.000.000

East Kaioshin: 40.000.000.000

Kibito: 90.000.000

Pocus: 1.000.000.000

Yakon: 2.000.000.000

Dabura: 67.500.000.000

Fat Buu
-initial: 210.000.000.000
-1st power up (Dabura): 270.000.000.000
-2nd power up (Vegeta): 300.000.000.000
-max useable power (Goku): 400.000.000.000
-full potential: 900.000.000.000 (reaches that level the moment before splitting)

Gohan (post sword)
-base: 2.400.000.000
-SSJ: 120.000.000.000
-SSJ2: 300.000.000.000

Gotenks
-base: 270.000.000.000 (4.5x SSJ Goten)
-SSJ: 360.000.000.000

SUPER BUU SAGA

Good Buu: 400.000.000.000

Evil Buu: 500.000.000.000

Super Buu: 900.000.000.000

Goten
-base: 1.500.000.000
-SSJ: 75.000.000.000

Trunks
-base: 1.500.000.000
-SSJ: 75.000.000.000

Gotenks
-base: 375.000.000.000 (5x SSJ Goten)
-SSJ: 500.000.000.000
-SSJ3: 1.000.000.000.000

Ultimate Gohan: 1.200.000.000.000

Kibitoshin: 180.000.000.000 (4.5x East Kaioshin)

Buutenks: 1.900.000.000.000

Buuhan: 2.100.000.000.000

Vegetto
-base: 2.250.000.000.000 (4.5x SSJ3 Goku)
-SSJ: 3.000.000.000.000

Buffed Buu: 1.000.000.000.000

ANCIENT PAST

East Kaioshin: 40.000.000.000

West Kaioshin: 45.000.000.000

North Kaioshin: 45.000.000.000

South Kaioshin: 500.000.000.000

Dai Kaioshin: 100.000.000.000

Kid Buu: 500.000.000.000

Buffed Buu: 1.000.000.000.000 (Kid Buu + South Kaioshin)

Fat Buu
-useable power: 400.000.000.000
-full potential: 900.000.000.000 (Buffed Buu - Dai Kaioshin)

FINAL BATTLE

Kid Buu: 500.000.000.000

SSJ3 Goku: 500.000.000.000

SSJ2 Vegeta: 250.000.000.000

Fat Buu: 400.000.000.000 (South Kaioshin - Dai Kaioshin)

Goku's spirit bomb: 1.000.000.000.000

UBB SAGA

Goku: 2.000.000.000

Ubb
-normal: 1
-enraged: 2.000.000.000
-full potential: 500.000.000.000

 

[Papasmurf]

Are you going to do the Super/GT arcs?

 

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I don't know if it's worth doing Super when it hasn't ended yet and anything can be
retconned at any moment.
About GT, i'll do it if i ever watch it again, but i will connect it to an Anime DBZ list.

 

[freezamite]

The list is clearly influenced by the anime (it has all the flaws anime lists make) and therefore you don't consider a lot of facts from the manga.
Firstly, once a Saiyan reaches the SSJ his power in base state can't increase any more (only SSJ-born saiyans or saiyans that become SSJ before being adults are an exception to that).
You also don't take into account both the 40 ton feat an the absorbed people data given in the Cell saga.
Too much difference between Dr Guero/A20, Vegeta and A18. With your numbers I can't see how A19 could've absorbed enough energy to leave Vegeta under A20 and at the same time not becoming much stronger than him (unless we put a limit below A20 in how strong A19 can be).
Numbers are too high in general.

 

[Tapion]

This Daizenshuu, the 7th and final one, is a huge Dragon Ball encyclopedia. I think the staff who make these books always have a rough time of it, but this one looked even more hellish than usual. They really did a great job. I’m ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author, there’s lots of stuff even I don’t know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all.

 

[freezamite]

This Daizenshuu, the 7th and final one, is a huge Dragon Ball encyclopedia. I think the staff who make these books always have a rough time of it, but this one looked even more hellish than usual. They really did a great job. I’m ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author, there’s lots of stuff even I don’t know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all.

Yeah, they asked Toriyama to write something for the guide and considering Toriyama also gained money with each guide sold he came up with that.
That being said, it wasn't as good when you see 1500 Raditz, 4000 Nappa and of course Toriyama himself stating that the 50x multiplier for Goku in Namek is not what he drew.

 

[ahill]

Toriyama himself stating that the 50x multiplier for Goku in Namek is not what he drew.

The "up until now" could be referring to the Kaioken 10-fold or 20-fold that Goku was using, as stated by Herms. Not only this, but in the same interview Toriyama admitted to have forgotten much of Dragon Ball's story himself and that we shouldn't take these numbers he throws out too seriously:

Also in the Super Exciting Guide: Story Volume, Toriyama revealed in an interview that he thought a multiplier of 50 was rather large, and that he had originally drawn it with the sense of being a 10-fold increase in what Goku had been “up until then”. It is unclear how this would put Super Saiyan in relation to Goku’s regular use of Kaiō-Ken x10 to gain a 10-fold increase in power, and the “up until then” bit muddies things further. Since Goku had already multiplied his power 10 and 20 times with the Kaiō-Ken as he fought Freeza, did Toriyama mean that he thought of Super Saiyan as being 10 times stronger than that, meaning it would make Goku overall 100 or 200 times stronger than he normally was? If so, it is hard to make sense of Toriyama saying that a 50-fold increase is too large. If Toriyama meant that it only made Goku 10 times stronger than he was without using Kaiō-Ken, then Super Saiyan Goku is only half as strong as he was when using the Kaiō-Ken x20, at which point he was unable to significantly harm Freeza. Perhaps the answer is that Toriyama is being his usual forgetful self, since he himself admits in the same interview to have forgotten much of Dragon Ball′s story himself, and that we should not take these numbers he throws out too seriously.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/databook/

 

[Tapion]

This Daizenshuu, the 7th and final one, is a huge Dragon Ball encyclopedia. I think the staff who make these books always have a rough time of it, but this one looked even more hellish than usual. They really did a great job. I’m ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author, there’s lots of stuff even I don’t know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all.

Yeah, they asked Toriyama to write something for the guide and considering Toriyama also gained money with each guide sold he came up with that.
That being said, it wasn't as good when you see 1500 Raditz, 4000 Nappa and of course Toriyama himself stating that the 50x multiplier for Goku in Namek is not what he drew.

The actual statement is that his feeling as an author was that it was 10x what it was up to that point. The same Toriyama admits he is extremely forgetful and despite the fact he is the author, there is lots of stuff he doesn't even know about his own series. The SSjin boost being one of them, presumably.

 

[freezamite]

The "up until now" could be referring to the Kaioken 10-fold or 20-fold that Goku was using, as stated by Herms. Not only this, but in the same interview Toriyama admitted to have forgotten much of Dragon Ball's story himself and that we shouldn't take these numbers he throws out too seriously:

Also in the Super Exciting Guide: Story Volume, Toriyama revealed in an interview that he thought a multiplier of 50 was rather large, and that he had originally drawn it with the sense of being a 10-fold increase in what Goku had been “up until then”. It is unclear how this would put Super Saiyan in relation to Goku’s regular use of Kaiō-Ken x10 to gain a 10-fold increase in power, and the “up until then” bit muddies things further. Since Goku had already multiplied his power 10 and 20 times with the Kaiō-Ken as he fought Freeza, did Toriyama mean that he thought of Super Saiyan as being 10 times stronger than that, meaning it would make Goku overall 100 or 200 times stronger than he normally was? If so, it is hard to make sense of Toriyama saying that a 50-fold increase is too large. If Toriyama meant that it only made Goku 10 times stronger than he was without using Kaiō-Ken, then Super Saiyan Goku is only half as strong as he was when using the Kaiō-Ken x20, at which point he was unable to significantly harm Freeza. Perhaps the answer is that Toriyama is being his usual forgetful self, since he himself admits in the same interview to have forgotten much of Dragon Ball′s story himself, and that we should not take these numbers he throws out too seriously.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/databook/

No, it couldn't be referring to the KK for multiple reasons. But I like you've quoted the full explanation by Herms, because now the "mystery" can finally be solved. Firstly, it's obvious Toriyama didn't count the KK (it's a technique that has nothing to do with the SSJ forms) and even Herms acknowledges that (see the bolded, underlined part).

...did Toriyama mean that he thought of Super Saiyan as being 10 times stronger than that, meaning it would make Goku overall 100 or 200 times stronger than he normally was? If so, it is hard to make sense of Toriyama saying that a 50-fold increase is too large. If Toriyama meant that it only made Goku 10 times stronger than he was without using Kaiō-Ken, then Super Saiyan Goku is only half as strong as he was when using the Kaiō-Ken x20, at which point he was unable to significantly harm Freeza. Perhaps the answer is that Toriyama is being his usual forgetful self...

Now, regarding Herms' doubt, no Herms, the answer is not that Toriyama was being his usual forgetful self.
Firstly, it's impossible that he was his "forgetful" self because he didn't give that answer to a question asking for the SSJ multiplier. He was asked about the SSJ blond hair, and he took the opportunity to address the 50x multiplier as well. If he had been forgetful, he wouldn't have said anything about the 10x multiplier, because no one asked him about it.

Secondly, it's not Toriyama the one that's forgetful. Herms like the Daizenshuu guides or nearly any DB fan that has seen the anime before reading the manga, forgot one of the most basic rules of any DB fight. When a character is injured, he loses strength. So, when Herms says "but that would put SSJ below the KK and Goku couldn't harm Freezer with that strength" he forgets that 50% Freezer pre-Genkidama and 50% Freezer post-Genkidama are worlds apart.
It's like comparing Vegeta just after he arrives at the Earth to when he is leaving after being defeated. Does anyone really think Krilin was stronger than Vegeta? Of course not.

So, Herms didn't take into account the real answer. Neither Toriyama was multiplying the KKs nor he was being forgetful. It's Herm that's forgetful about one of the most basic rules of DB and, unable to understand Toriyama's explanation, tries to give his pow on what he said. Even Herm admits that 10 times the KK has not even the slightest sense (not only in terms of manga feats, but also in terms of what Toriyama said. No one says 50x is too much to then add that it was 100 or 200 times stronger unless he was trolling, which obviously wasn't the case).

The actual statement is that his feeling as an author was that it was 10x what it was up to that point. The same Toriyama admits he is extremely forgetful and despite the fact he is the author, there is lots of stuff he doesn't even know about his own series. The SSjin boost being one of them, presumably.

Even if he is extremely forgetful, no one ever addresses something he doesn't remember if he isn't asked directly. If the question had been "what do you think about the 50x multiplier?" then that could be an option (but even then, the manga makes the 50x completely impossible).
The 50x SSJ is absolutely impossible to justify manga at hand, impossible. It requires for the manga to drop nearly every single internal rule it has (from the power difference needed to own someone to the fact that the more hurt one gets the less strength he has).
In that case it's obvious Toriyama was right, and he was careful enough to say "about 10 times" and not "10 times", which further demonstrates how good he is as a writer.

 

[ahill]

Firstly, it's obvious Toriyama didn't count the KK (it's a technique that has nothing to do with the SSJ forms) and even Herms acknowledges that (see the bolded, underlined part).

The fact that the Kaioken and KMHMH have nothing to do doesn't really matter, because Toriyama was doing (maybe) just a comparison. It's the same as Jackie Chun comparing the Kikoho and KMHMH (saying the former is way stronger than the latter) when they have nothing to do. If they both (Kaioken and SSJ) amplifies Goku's power, even if they are different things, a comparison between them can be made just fine.

No, Herms, the answer is not that Toriyama was being his usual forgetful self.

So Toriyama was wrong. Pick one.

Firstly, it's impossible that he was his "forgetful" self because he didn't give that answer to a question asking for the SSJ multiplier. He was asked about the SSJ blond hair, and he took the opportunity to address the 50x multiplier as well. If he had been forgetful, he wouldn't have said anything about the 10x multiplier, because no one asked him about it.

The fact that Toriyama was addressing something more doesn't mean he couldn't be forgetful about that thing, really. When asked about why he [AT] chose to write the BoG after Boo saga, he said the characters were at their best there and that he even gave Vegeta a mustache at the end of Z. AT choosing to talk about something else doesn't make him immune to the forgetfulness.

When a character is injured, he loses strength. So, when Herms says "but that would put SSJ below the KK and Goku couldn't harm Freezer with that strength" he forgets that 50% Freezer pre-Genkidama and 50% Freezer post-Genkidama are worlds apart.

Freeza could still access his true power, as he said he'd go 100% (not some random percentage below that) and Goku said he wanted to fight Freeza at his absolute best. Not only this, but Goku said Freeza finally found somebody that surpassed him, that is, surpassed Freeza as a whole, not a "pretty worn out Freeza".

Chapter: 325
Pg.2
Son Goku: I'm satisfied. Your pride's been shredded. You've met somebody that surpassed the supposedly unsurpassable Freeza. And he was only a Saiyan.

Not only this, but Freeza's surprise towards Goku's SSJ strength, asking "Who are you?" and being enranged the SSJ awakened. Not to mention Freeza didn't brag at any time of just losing because he lost a lot of power being hit by the Genki-Dama, and that freaking half of his power would be enough to deal with Goku. That, and Kaio-sama saying that Goku SSJ title as the strongest in the Universe would be over quickly due to Namek's explosion all lose its mean if Goku SSJ is just = Kaioken x10 Goku.

At Trunks' arrival, all the talking about the SSJ, with Trunks asking Goku to turn into a SSJ, Vegeta saying Goku shouldn't be confident due to becoming one and Piccolo's reaction to the SSJ (the form he knows defeated Freeza) without making any mention of it being << 50% Freeza doesn't make a lick of sense.

Freeza's power up into 100% also likely rejuvenated him. He still had the bruises that were dealt to him by the Goku's Kaioken x20 and the Genki-Dama, but so had Goku after becoming into SSJ, and we know his power was rejuvenated.

 

[freezamite]

The fact that the Kaioken and KMHMH have nothing to do doesn't really matter, because Toriyama was doing (maybe) just a comparison. It's the same as Jackie Chun comparing the Kikoho and KMHMH (saying the former is way stronger than the latter) when they have nothing to do. If they both (Kaioken and SSJ) amplifies Goku's power, even if they are different things, a comparison between them can be made just fine.

What? The Kikoho and the KMHMH are both ki techniques, and he is saying that one is stronger than the other one XD
But seriously, let's forget about that, can't you see that it has absolutely no sense for Toriyama to say "50x was too much, in reality it was 200x?".
It's not only that it doesn't have any sense to speak in such an awkward way (if you want to say 100 times stronger, you don't say 10 times the KKx10), it's that the sentence itself doesn't have any sense. If 50x is too much, why the hell would he say something that would translate into 100x or even 200x?

We're reaching a point where it seems you've some kind of personal interest in Goku being stronger than Freezer in Namek. Could we at least have an HONEST discussion? Because seriously, EVEN HERMS SAID THAT IT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR TORIYAMA TO SAY THAT.

So Toriyama was wrong. Pick one.

What about you being wrong? Has that possibility even crossed your mind?

The fact that Toriyama was addressing something more doesn't mean he couldn't be forgetful about that thing, really. When asked about why he [AT] chose to write the BoG after Boo saga, he said the characters were at their best there and that he even gave Vegeta a mustache at the end of Z. AT choosing to talk about something else doesn't make him immune to the forgetfulness.

Stop it. Firstly, in your example Toriyama wasn't addressing anything, he was answering the question he was made and he got a detail wrong.
Secondly, if you don't remember about the SSJ multiplier and you're asked about the SSJ blond hair, why would you say anything about the SSJ multiplier?
It doesn't make any sense. If you don't remember something you may get it wrong when you're asked for it, but it's obvious you won't bring it out of nowhere. Toriyama thought the 50x multiplier wasn't right, and he felt the necessity to address that. Period.

Freeza could still access his true power, as he said he'd go 100% (not some random percentage below that) and Goku said he wanted to fight Freeza at his absolute best.

Yes, yes, that's how you read it, and that's why you're wrong. Going 100% simply means using all the power, Freezer was still at his 50% (injured or not, he was using only 50% of his available power) and he simply said he would use all his strength.
Cell was also hiding part of his power when he fought Goku, and Goku still gave him a senzu bean so he could recover, because it doesn't matter if you aren't going all out when it comes to being injured and loosing strength, otherwise every character would always fight at 50% of his strength because no matter how grave the injuries he wouldn't weaken (and that doesn't make any sense).

Your way of reading this sentence contradicts the manga in dozens of places. It contradicts the basic rule of loosing energy, it contradicts Cell as a character, it contradicts what Freezer says, it contradicts Freezer loosing all his energy after the kienzan (hey, by the way, wasn't Freezer at his 100% when he got cut? And he couldn't even fly? Why couldn't Freezer even fly if he was in his 100% form if according to you 100% means all the strength Freezer normally has and not all the strength Freezer has at that moment?), and it even contradicts the author himself. It contradicts EVERYTHING that can be contradicted, and you still insist on it because you are unable to admit that maybe your view of the manga is the one it's wrong.

Instead of adapting your view of the manga to the solid facts exposed in it, you try to adapt the manga to your personal view of it.

Not only this, but Goku said Freeza finally found somebody that surpassed him, that is, surpassed Freeza as a whole, not a "pretty worn out Freeza".
Chapter: 325
Pg.2
Son Goku: I'm satisfied. Your pride's been shredded. You've met somebody that surpassed the supposedly unsurpassable Freeza. And he was only a Saiyan.

Yes, Goku wanted to offend Freezer. So what? Goku lies a lot, and he wanted to humiliate Freezer for what he did to the Namekians and to his friends. What did you want Goku to say in that situation? Something like "Hey Freezer you're the strongest! I've only been able to win because I've fired a Genkidama that by the way is a technique that uses the power of a lot of planets and not my own that nearly kills you but don't worry pal you're still the strongest" or something like that? lol

Not only this, but Freeza's surprise towards Goku's SSJ strength, asking "Who are you?" and being enranged the SSJ awakened. Not to mention Freeza didn't brag at any time of just losing because he lost a lot of power being hit by the Genki-Dama, and that freaking half of his power would be enough to deal with Goku. That, and Kaio-sama saying that Goku SSJ title as the strongest in the Universe would be over quickly due to Namek's explosion all lose its mean if Goku SSJ is just = Kaioken x10 Goku.

And why would he brag about something that Goku himself did? Firstly, to Freezer the Genkidama was like any other attack Goku made (he even wondered how could Goku still have that much energy when he saw it) so why would he brag about having lost energy if he lost that energy because of Goku's own attacks? That would be bragging about loosing a race because the other runners are faster than you.
Then we have dozens of examples of characters that due to a sudden change in his body (being injured, receiving a zenkay, not having used all his powers ever before) didn't know how much energy they really had, so Freezer being just one more of that list it's the most normal thing. Why would Freezer know things that even Cell couldn't know? It doesn't make any sense.
And finally, Goku was as injured as Freezer in Freezer's eyes. It doesn't matter if we know Goku regained all his strength, Freezer didn't know that so he couldn't speak as if he knew it.

At Trunks' arrival, all the talking about the SSJ, with Trunks asking Goku to turn into a SSJ, Vegeta saying Goku shouldn't be confident due to becoming one and Piccolo's reaction to the SSJ (the form he knows defeated Freeza) without making any mention of it being << 50% Freeza doesn't make a lick of sense.

Lol. So according to you Piccolo should have said "hey guys! You think you're strong? My buddy Freezer was stronger than you in Namek don't forget that!".
Why would Piccolo say anything about Freezer being stronger? What would he gain by saying that? Which interest did he had according to you that would make him go and defend Freezer? And that if we assume Piccolo could really grasp the real extent of those powers, because if Krilin wasn't able to tell if Zarbon or Dodoria where above Earth Vegeta I don't know why you would suddenly assume that ki sensing is as precise as a scoutter.
It's what you're saying that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Freeza's power up into 100% also likely rejuvenated him. He still had the bruises that were dealt to him by the Goku's Kaioken x20 and the Genki-Dama, but so had Goku after becoming into SSJ, and we know his power was rejuvenated.

Goku had a rage boost, which always rejuvenates and increases one's power. Freezer simply went from using half his strength to all the strength he had, and that never rejuvenates anything (it didn't even rejuvenate Cell who was an improved version of Freezer).