REQUESTING OFFICIAL GUIDEBOOK STATEMENTS ON SUPER SAIYAN GRADES

[VampireWicked]

I am requesting help from every DragonBall Universe fan here.
I am sick of the whole stubborn fans & their fan logic is law/FACT when it comes to this particular subject.

On neo I've been going at for weeks about Grade3 vs Grade4 & which is stronger, Grade multipliers, etc.
My belief is that Grade 4 is stronger because it's the full unlocked potential of the SuperSaiyan Transformation but in a refined form capable of holding all the power G3 has & more.

Also Grades 2 & 3 do not have different multipliers because they are Power-Ups of the initial SuperSaiyan which exceeds Ki-Control resulting in increased muscle mass.

I've even created a thread on why I see it that way.

HOW I UNDERSTAND SUPER SAIYAN GRADES, MULTIPLIERS, WHY GRADE 2/3 AREN'T STRONGER THAN GRADE 4

And the other member is constantly arguing against it.


I've been looking all over online looking for any official Daizenshuu statements saying either way, stating Grades 2 & 3 have their own Transformation multipliers & Grade is more powerful than Grade4. Etc.

Any official statements, absolutely NO fanbased theories, No fanbased logic, No fanbased assumptions, No fanbased Interpretations.
An absolute straight to the point official Daizenshuu/SEG guidebook statement, can anyone help me out with this????
Feel free to post or link the source.
I'm asking you all here because members here show a lot A LOT more reasoning & less gooberness in forcing your own brand of logic as fact.
Thank You.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Grade 4? Is that SSjin2's another name? Anyway here's a list of SSjin transformations.
http://www.dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=752

 

[VampireWicked]

Grade 4? Is that SSjin2's another name? Anyway here's a list of SSjin transformations.
http://www.dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=752

Grade4 is when Goku/Goahn mastered SuperSaiyan.

And is that an official guidebook list ? Because there's nothing on SuperSaiyan FullPowered.

 

[Pyro]

http://web.archive.org/web/20120304001216/http://www.kanzentai.com/trans.php

All the Daizenshuu stuff Kanzenshuu translated before their move.

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9953

SEG Story Volume

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10196&p=251052

SEG Character Volume

Don't know where the Legendary Mango shit is but you should have a good amount of Super Saiyan info here.

 

[VampireWicked]

Thank you Pyro.



Okay this paragraph.

Toriyama says it all comes down to 'ki', the size of it and the ability to control it. He says it includes several forms: genki, yuuki & shouki (energy, bravery & true character). You can only train your muscles to a certain point, it's 'ki' that carries you beyond that and what helped Goku come closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe.

That gives proof to Grades 2 & 3 not being stronger.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Thank you Pyro.



Okay this paragraph.

Toriyama says it all comes down to 'ki', the size of it and the ability to control it. He says it includes several forms: genki, yuuki & shouki (energy, bravery & true character). You can only train your muscles to a certain point, it's 'ki' that carries you beyond that and what helped Goku come closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe.

That gives proof to Grades 2 & 3 not being stronger.

Not stronger than Grade 4 (Mastered SSjin)?

 

[VampireWicked]

Thank you Pyro.



Okay this paragraph.

Toriyama says it all comes down to 'ki', the size of it and the ability to control it. He says it includes several forms: genki, yuuki & shouki (energy, bravery & true character). You can only train your muscles to a certain point, it's 'ki' that carries you beyond that and what helped Goku come closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe.

That gives proof to Grades 2 & 3 not being stronger.

Not stronger than Grade 4 (Mastered SSjin)?

It's not because that applies directly to Ki, not muscles.
Grade 2 & 3 overloaded themselves with Ki which caused their muscles to ridiculously expand.
Their bodies couldn't handle the power.

Grade4 aka SuperSaiyan FullPowered aka SuperSaiyan Mastered, could.
That form could use all the power & handle all the Ki in a normal SuperSaiyan form.