Should Blaziken even be Ubers?

[Six Trails]

This is Base Blaziken I'm taking about, not Mega Blaziken. I don't think it should be. I have a hard time setting up a Swords Dance because it's too frail to even take a hit, and it's Atk just seems too weak without Life Orb, which wears it down even faster on top of recoil damage from Flare Blitz. Maybe I'm missing something here, but I only see Mega Blaziken being feasible for Ubers.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

i dont play ubers like at all
but a regular blaziken hits pretty hard no? orbed or maybe sash + swords dance is viable i would think

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If it has it's hidden ability, it can qualify for ubers. If not, then just OU.

 

[Uchiha]

Yeah it seems way too fragile and weak for Ubers. The idea is a baton passer, but even then I don't see it being that amazing.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

Yeah it seems way too fragile and weak for Ubers. The idea is a baton passer, but even then I don't see it being that amazing.

yeah his damage output isnt sweeper level, but can be revenge killer imo, still hits hard to pokemon that are weak or neutral to it

 

[Uchiha]

How can it be a revenge killer? Its base speed is lower than most ubers

 

[Doctor Havoc]

How can it be a revenge killer? Its base speed is lower than most ubers

i dont believe after a turn of speed boost it isnt?
and it can learn protect so it should be fine

 

[Uchiha]

How can it be a revenge killer? Its base speed is lower than most ubers

i dont believe after a turn of speed boost it isnt?
and it can learn protect so it should be fine

If it needs to use protect then it's not a revenge killer anymore. Using protect means that the other person can get a free switch onto a pokemon that counters it.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

trueish but you have to be smart about it, your not going to be throwing such a frail pokemon willy nilly same as mega blazekin who only has 100 base speed, which needs protect in some cases as well. imo its still a revenge killer if you use it right when ur opp is down a few pokemon at that point nothing matters who they throw in its gonna get hit hard

 

[Uchiha]

That's still not how a revenge killer is used though. The best prime example of revenge killer is Slaking. It has both speed and retarded attack. When it takes down a mon you bring it in with retaliate and nothing wants to switch into it. Normal Blaizken has neither speed nor considerable attack. It needs an SD to work even hit decently (at least not the Mega version). It's a setup pokemon clear as day, probably best used with baton pass, not even straight up attacking.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

even if it needs to set up a bit its gonna hit decent, set up pokemon then if thats what you wanna call it

 

[Six Trails]

I still don't think Base Blaziken is too broken for OU. It's not like a Gale Wings Talonflame would have any difficulty taking it out for example.