SSJ Goku (Combined powers BOG) vs SBV1

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Who wins? both were said to be the strongest ki.
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[Six Trails]

Goku gets slaughtered. How could Ki from 4 people who are weaker than Super Buu (even arguably Gohan) make him stronger than Super Vegetto?

 

[Canis Latrans]

Goku gets slaughtered. How could Ki from 4 people who are weaker than Super Buu (even arguably Gohan) make him stronger than Super Vegetto?

Isn't Vegeta and Goku implied to have surpassed gohan? North Kaio contacts Vegeta instead of Gohan

 

[SIAD]

SSJ Goku (Combined Energies) crushes very easily. It is said that Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) has the highest Ki, despite feeling the tremendous Ki SSJ2 Vegeta (Enraged), which in turn exceeded at Bills (Tremendously deleted). According Goku, Vegetto or SSJ3 (BoG) could against Bills (Tremendously deleted). Therefore: SSJ Goku (Combined Energies)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Tremendously deleted) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).
  I have personally SSJ Goku (combined energies) between Yi Xing Long and Goku SSJ4 (Beyond the Limits).

 

[Six Trails]

SS Goten + SS Trunks + (arguably not) Ultimate Gohan + SS2 Vegeta + SS Goku > Yi Xing Long??

 

[SIAD]

SS Goten + SS Trunks + (arguably not) Ultimate Gohan + SS2 Vegeta + SS Goku > Yi Xing Long??

Goku SSJ4 (Beyond the Limits) = Goku SSJ4 (Natural) + Majuub (SD) + SSJ Gohan (SD) + Trunks SSJ (SD) + Goten SSJ (SD)?

  Clearly not a simple sum.

 

[Six Trails]

Yes, but all of those characters are much stronger than their Z counterpart. If GT Goku got the same boost you're giving BoG Goku, he should've just finger flicked Yi Xing Long.

 

[Pyro]

Goku gets slaughtered. How could Ki from 4 people who are weaker than Super Buu (even arguably Gohan) make him stronger than Super Vegetto?

Isn't Vegeta and Goku implied to have surpassed gohan? North Kaio contacts Vegeta instead of Gohan

He does that because Vegeta is the most likely to do something rash. That's from the uncut version, I believe.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

SSJ Goku (Combined Energies) crushes very easily. It is said that Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) has the highest Ki, despite feeling the tremendous Ki SSJ2 Vegeta (Enraged), which in turn exceeded at Bills (Tremendously deleted). According Goku, Vegetto or SSJ3 (BoG) could against Bills (Tremendously deleted). Therefore: SSJ Goku (Combined Energies)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Tremendously deleted) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).
  I have personally SSJ Goku (combined energies) between Yi Xing Long and Goku SSJ4 (Beyond the Limits).

Gohan was absorbed by Boo when Vegito existed so his statement doesn't include Vegito.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I don't think Goku VASTLY powered up. Correct me if I'm wrong but Gohan says 2 completely different things regarding Goku's huge flux of power from his kids, Vegeta, and Trunks.

English: "You have the greatest power in history!" Implying Goku may have reached new plateaus of power from the others with just SSJ.

Japanese: "You have outstanding battle power!" Implying he powered up greatly but not enough to actually say he can take Vegetto if that were possible.

Personally I just add the SSJ power of everyone into Goku and have him still vastly weaker than Pre-ROSAT SSJ Gotenks. Even if I did add of the power from every SSJ form they have that still wouldn't be enough for Goku to even come close to Base Baby Vegeta with SSJ3 even. So I'm giving this to Super Baby Vegeta in a quick match.

 

[SIAD]

SSJ Goku (Combined Energies) crushes very easily. It is said that Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) has the highest Ki, despite feeling the tremendous Ki SSJ2 Vegeta (Enraged), which in turn exceeded at Bills (Tremendously deleted). According Goku, Vegetto or SSJ3 (BoG) could against Bills (Tremendously deleted). Therefore: SSJ Goku (Combined Energies)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Tremendously deleted) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).
  I have personally SSJ Goku (combined energies) between Yi Xing Long and Goku SSJ4 (Beyond the Limits).

Gohan was absorbed by Boo when Vegito existed so his statement doesn't include Vegito.

Yes, but Gohan was a possible witness to the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), who beat Bills (Ultra deleted), which in turn was declared by Goku that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could against. Therefore: SSJ Goku (Powers Combined)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo). If it were a simple sum of powers, probably SSJ Goku (Combined Powers) did not even have the same power that Goku SSJ2 (BoG).
 We can also see that Krillin was 100% witnessed the power of Vegetta SSJ2 (Enraged) and still, thought that Goku SSJ (combined energies) had become SSJG, but Piccolo as best judge realized that the power of SSJ Goku (Powers Combined) was not up to Bills, as witnessed that Bills to turn against Vegeta, showed that it was much more powerful and even Wiss had recently stated that Bills could destroy the Solar System in an instant. I see something like this:

 Goku SSJG (100%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (combined energies) > Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG).

 If it had been a simple sum of powers, Krillin had not been a "silly to the extreme" for calling Goku SSJG just to have the combined energies.

 

[SuperGogeta]

Goku is stronger than Buuhan, but thats it , Base Baby Vegeta slaughters Goku IMO

 

[SIAD]

I must say I'm wrong. I SSJ Goku (combined energies) and Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) more powerful than Yi Xing Long (weakened). I SSJ Goku (combined energies) and Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) near the power of Yi Xing Long.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

SSJ Goku (Combined Energies) crushes very easily. It is said that Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) has the highest Ki, despite feeling the tremendous Ki SSJ2 Vegeta (Enraged), which in turn exceeded at Bills (Tremendously deleted). According Goku, Vegetto or SSJ3 (BoG) could against Bills (Tremendously deleted). Therefore: SSJ Goku (Combined Energies)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Tremendously deleted) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).
  I have personally SSJ Goku (combined energies) between Yi Xing Long and Goku SSJ4 (Beyond the Limits).

Gohan was absorbed by Boo when Vegito existed so his statement doesn't include Vegito.

Yes, but Gohan was a possible witness to the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), who beat Bills (Ultra deleted), which in turn was declared by Goku that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could against. Therefore: SSJ Goku (Powers Combined)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo). If it were a simple sum of powers, probably SSJ Goku (Combined Powers) did not even have the same power that Goku SSJ2 (BoG).
 We can also see that Krillin was 100% witnessed the power of Vegetta SSJ2 (Enraged) and still, thought that Goku SSJ (combined energies) had become SSJG, but Piccolo as best judge realized that the power of SSJ Goku (Powers Combined) was not up to Bills, as witnessed that Bills to turn against Vegeta, showed that it was much more powerful and even Wiss had recently stated that Bills could destroy the Solar System in an instant. I see something like this:

 Goku SSJG (100%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (combined energies) > Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG).

 If it had been a simple sum of powers, Krillin had not been a "silly to the extreme" for calling Goku SSJG just to have the combined energies.

Goku was estimating Beerus 100%. By the movement of Beerus, he can tell that Vegit won't be enough to stop him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG

Now Beerus against Z Shenshi is the same one against Goku. Vegeta enraged did better than everyone and he made Beerus bleed which nobody else did it before which implied that Vegeta is the strongest at that time.

After the fight. Beerus said that Vegeta is not the SSG either which implied that he was letting Vegeta to hit him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>>>>>> Supressed Beerus > SSJ2 rage Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku

After Goku absorbed everyone's power. Gohan stated that Goku is the strongest in the history which should include Vegeta too since he contribute his power as well. Keep in mind that Vegito shouldn't be include here since Gohan was absorbed at that time when Vegito existed.

Beerus [100% by Goku] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>> Supressed Beerus > All power absorbed Goku > SSJ2 Rage Vegeta

Goku stated that SSG power is completely different dimension and will never achieve it by himself and thought that he's enough to beat Beerus which imply that he has a better chance than Vegito at 80%.

Beerus [100% by Goku] ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > Rage Vegeta

Now Beerus said he was just using 70% of his power and never power up except he increased his speed.

Beerus 70% >= Beerus 100% by Goku ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > rage Vegeta

 

[Southern Gothic]

I just want to note that in the sub Gohan says that Goku has an" incredible battle power", after absorbing the saiyans energy. Nothing is said about being the strongest in history, which might bring Goku down a little.

 

[Pakl]

Gohan was absorbed by Boo when Vegito existed so his statement doesn't include Vegito.

Yes, but Gohan was a possible witness to the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), who beat Bills (Ultra deleted), which in turn was declared by Goku that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could against. Therefore: SSJ Goku (Powers Combined)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo). If it were a simple sum of powers, probably SSJ Goku (Combined Powers) did not even have the same power that Goku SSJ2 (BoG).
 We can also see that Krillin was 100% witnessed the power of Vegetta SSJ2 (Enraged) and still, thought that Goku SSJ (combined energies) had become SSJG, but Piccolo as best judge realized that the power of SSJ Goku (Powers Combined) was not up to Bills, as witnessed that Bills to turn against Vegeta, showed that it was much more powerful and even Wiss had recently stated that Bills could destroy the Solar System in an instant. I see something like this:

 Goku SSJG (100%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (combined energies) > Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG).

 If it had been a simple sum of powers, Krillin had not been a "silly to the extreme" for calling Goku SSJG just to have the combined energies.

Goku was estimating Beerus 100%. By the movement of Beerus, he can tell that Vegit won't be enough to stop him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG

Now Beerus against Z Shenshi is the same one against Goku. Vegeta enraged did better than everyone and he made Beerus bleed which nobody else did it before which implied that Vegeta is the strongest at that time.

After the fight. Beerus said that Vegeta is not the SSG either which implied that he was letting Vegeta to hit him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>>>>>> Supressed Beerus > SSJ2 rage Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku

After Goku absorbed everyone's power. Gohan stated that Goku is the strongest in the history which should include Vegeta too since he contribute his power as well. Keep in mind that Vegito shouldn't be include here since Gohan was absorbed at that time when Vegito existed.

Beerus [100% by Goku] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>> Supressed Beerus > All power absorbed Goku > SSJ2 Rage Vegeta

Goku stated that SSG power is completely different dimension and will never achieve it by himself and thought that he's enough to beat Beerus which imply that he has a better chance than Vegito at 80%.

Beerus [100% by Goku] ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > Rage Vegeta

Now Beerus said he was just using 70% of his power and never power up except he increased his speed.

Beerus 70% >= Beerus 100% by Goku ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > rage Vegeta

70% Beerus > 100% SSjin God Goku > 80% SSjin God Goku
70% Beerus >> 80% SSjin God Goku

Beerus was dominating most of the fight but then seemed to have an harder fight vs SSjin Goku post god power absorbed

80% SSjin God Goku: 4.8
SSjin Goku post god power absorbed: 5.5
100% SSjin God Goku: 6
70% Beerus: 7

 

[SIAD]

Gohan was absorbed by Boo when Vegito existed so his statement doesn't include Vegito.

Yes, but Gohan was a possible witness to the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), who beat Bills (Ultra deleted), which in turn was declared by Goku that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could against. Therefore: SSJ Goku (Powers Combined)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo). If it were a simple sum of powers, probably SSJ Goku (Combined Powers) did not even have the same power that Goku SSJ2 (BoG).
 We can also see that Krillin was 100% witnessed the power of Vegetta SSJ2 (Enraged) and still, thought that Goku SSJ (combined energies) had become SSJG, but Piccolo as best judge realized that the power of SSJ Goku (Powers Combined) was not up to Bills, as witnessed that Bills to turn against Vegeta, showed that it was much more powerful and even Wiss had recently stated that Bills could destroy the Solar System in an instant. I see something like this:

 Goku SSJG (100%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (combined energies) > Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG).

 If it had been a simple sum of powers, Krillin had not been a "silly to the extreme" for calling Goku SSJG just to have the combined energies.

Goku was estimating Beerus 100%. By the movement of Beerus, he can tell that Vegit won't be enough to stop him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG

Now Beerus against Z Shenshi is the same one against Goku. Vegeta enraged did better than everyone and he made Beerus bleed which nobody else did it before which implied that Vegeta is the strongest at that time.

After the fight. Beerus said that Vegeta is not the SSG either which implied that he was letting Vegeta to hit him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>>>>>> Supressed Beerus > SSJ2 rage Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku

After Goku absorbed everyone's power. Gohan stated that Goku is the strongest in the history which should include Vegeta too since he contribute his power as well. Keep in mind that Vegito shouldn't be include here since Gohan was absorbed at that time when Vegito existed.

Beerus [100% by Goku] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>> Supressed Beerus > All power absorbed Goku > SSJ2 Rage Vegeta

Goku stated that SSG power is completely different dimension and will never achieve it by himself and thought that he's enough to beat Beerus which imply that he has a better chance than Vegito at 80%.

Beerus [100% by Goku] ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > Rage Vegeta

Now Beerus said he was just using 70% of his power and never power up except he increased his speed.

Beerus 70% >= Beerus 100% by Goku ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > rage Vegeta

Goku has absolutely no idea of ​​the true power of Bills. All I knew was that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could rival and only for that match against Bills (Ultra deleted) and as was the difference was astronomical. Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) managed to overcome the tremendous power of Bills (Ultra deleted), but then Bills showed that all the time was ultra suppressed.

 While Gohan just said that the power of Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) "has incredible power," so I think even surpassed Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) because Krillin thought he had become a SSJG. But as Piccolo realized that the power of Bills is unimaginably greater than the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) then Piccolo knew the power of Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) remained microscopic to Bills.

 Bills (70%)> Goku SSJG (100%)> Bills (56%)> SSJ Goku (Post God)> SSJ Goku (50%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (Combined Energies)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged )> Bills (Ultra deleted) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).

 

[Pakl]

Beerus was using 70% the entire time

 

[SIAD]

Since Goku fought against SSJG you may have felt tired.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yes, but Gohan was a possible witness to the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), who beat Bills (Ultra deleted), which in turn was declared by Goku that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could against. Therefore: SSJ Goku (Powers Combined)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo). If it were a simple sum of powers, probably SSJ Goku (Combined Powers) did not even have the same power that Goku SSJ2 (BoG).
 We can also see that Krillin was 100% witnessed the power of Vegetta SSJ2 (Enraged) and still, thought that Goku SSJ (combined energies) had become SSJG, but Piccolo as best judge realized that the power of SSJ Goku (Powers Combined) was not up to Bills, as witnessed that Bills to turn against Vegeta, showed that it was much more powerful and even Wiss had recently stated that Bills could destroy the Solar System in an instant. I see something like this:

 Goku SSJG (100%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (combined energies) > Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Bills (Ultra deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG).

 If it had been a simple sum of powers, Krillin had not been a "silly to the extreme" for calling Goku SSJG just to have the combined energies.

Goku was estimating Beerus 100%. By the movement of Beerus, he can tell that Vegit won't be enough to stop him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG

Now Beerus against Z Shenshi is the same one against Goku. Vegeta enraged did better than everyone and he made Beerus bleed which nobody else did it before which implied that Vegeta is the strongest at that time.

After the fight. Beerus said that Vegeta is not the SSG either which implied that he was letting Vegeta to hit him.

Beerus [Goku estimation 100%] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>>>>>> Supressed Beerus > SSJ2 rage Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku

After Goku absorbed everyone's power. Gohan stated that Goku is the strongest in the history which should include Vegeta too since he contribute his power as well. Keep in mind that Vegito shouldn't be include here since Gohan was absorbed at that time when Vegito existed.

Beerus [100% by Goku] >>> SSJ3 Vegito BoG >>>>>> Supressed Beerus > All power absorbed Goku > SSJ2 Rage Vegeta

Goku stated that SSG power is completely different dimension and will never achieve it by himself and thought that he's enough to beat Beerus which imply that he has a better chance than Vegito at 80%.

Beerus [100% by Goku] ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > Rage Vegeta

Now Beerus said he was just using 70% of his power and never power up except he increased his speed.

Beerus 70% >= Beerus 100% by Goku ~ SSG Goku 80% >>> SSJ3 Vegito >>>> Supressed Beerus > Goku all power absorbed > rage Vegeta

Goku has absolutely no idea of ​​the true power of Bills. All I knew was that not a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) could rival and only for that match against Bills (Ultra deleted) and as was the difference was astronomical. Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) managed to overcome the tremendous power of Bills (Ultra deleted), but then Bills showed that all the time was ultra suppressed.

 While Gohan just said that the power of Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) "has incredible power," so I think even surpassed Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) because Krillin thought he had become a SSJG. But as Piccolo realized that the power of Bills is unimaginably greater than the power of Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) then Piccolo knew the power of Goku SSJ (Combined Energies) remained microscopic to Bills.

 Bills (70%)> Goku SSJG (100%)> Bills (56%)> SSJ Goku (Post God)> SSJ Goku (50%) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (Combined Energies)> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged )> Bills (Ultra deleted) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).

Just because Goku cannot sense him doesn't mean he can't know his power by movement.

Without knowing Beerus power, how come he knew that Vegito doesn't stand a chance?