SSJ3 Gotenks (SDS) vs First Form Frost

[Southern Gothic]

Who wins?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

SDS being Shadow Dragon Saga I presume?

FNF 1st form Freeza doesn't need to be much stronger than Ultimate Gohan, so Gotenks oneshots in base alone.

 

[Papasmurf]

SDS being Shadow Dragon Saga I presume?

FNF 1st form Freeza doesn't need to be much stronger than Ultimate Gohan, so Gotenks oneshots in base alone.

Isn't ToP Freezie Pop stronger than FnF Freezie Pop in his lower forms though? It seems the FnF arc more or less went exactly the same in the manga as it did in the movie from Freeza's flashback of Galu dealing the final blow, so I assume base Galu vs. base Freeza went exactly as it did in the anime and movie while Freeza seems far above the base Saiyans in the ToP.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I misread the title. Frost oneshots.

 

[Southern Gothic]

SSJ4 make any difference? Assuming a larger-end potential boost.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Difficult to say, considering how powerscaling can't really be used when looking at two characters with highly different stats. For instance, if not treating Piccolo's moon bust as an outlier, you have him going from Island to Moon level with what's at best a dozen or so additional points to his battle power, yet it takes up until the 18-24k mark for Planet busting to occur, so far from good correlation. Therefor, it's hard to say whether the high end boost of Gotenks becoming >> SS4 Gogeta's Multi Galaxy level power would bring him to the level of someone who's on the high end of such power.

I'll be generous and say it does to cut GT some slack with how much of an effort to treat it's top tiers as relevant to God Ki tier material such as video games and DBH have been, so Gotenks would likely win due to better techniques, unless Frost can still use his needle.

 

[supercat]

Although seemingly outclassed, Frost in his first form was able to inflict some damage on Base Goku. SSJ3 Gotenks' attacks had zero effect on Copy Base Vegeta; someone who was apparently comparable to the same Base Goku that faced Frost.

Frost would probably win this effortlessly.

Base Goku = Copy Base Vegeta > / Third Form Frost >> First Form Frost > Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > / = Super Buu > Mr. Buu

 

[Animelover5487]

Although seemingly outclassed, Frost in his first form was able to inflict some damage on Base Goku. SSJ3 Gotenks' attacks had zero effect on Copy Base Vegeta; someone who was apparently comparable to the same Base Goku that faced Frost.

Frost would probably win this effortlessly.

Base Goku = Copy Base Vegeta > / Third Form Frost >> First Form Frost > Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > / = Super Buu > Mr. Buu

This is GT Shadow Dragon arc Gotenks.

 

[supercat]

Ohhh.

By the Shadow Dragons Saga, both SSJ Goten and Trunks should be able to wreck Buuhan. A fusion alone is likely enough to put them above SSJ Vegetto (Buu saga) while stacking SSJ3 on top of that would presumably enable them to brush him aside like some bad joke.

I see Frost being anywhere between 2-5 times stronger than SSJ Vegetto (Buu saga). Tough one, but I honestly feel it could go either way. Both are likely several times stronger than anything the Buu saga had to dish out, but substantially weaker than SSJ Goku (Universe 6 saga).

SSJ Goku > Final Form Frost > / = Base Goku > Third Form Frost > First Form Frost = SSJ3 Gotenks (Shadow Dragon Saga) >> SSJ Vegetto >> Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks (Buu saga) > / = Super Buu > Mr. Buu

I feel there's a chance Base Goku may actually be stronger than Final Form Frost, but for now, I feel better keeping him below.