SSjin Vegeta Vs 100% Freeza

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A hypothetical SSJ Vegeta during the Frieza fight? I give this to Vegeta.

Some people go with Frieza/Goku being above 120/150 mil respectively, but I don't see a problem with those numbers. I have Vegeta being on the same level as 3rd Form Frieza or a little above that which would put him on 100% Frieza's level or slightly above that. It wouldn't be an easy fight, but all Vegeta would have to do is outlast him until his stamina begins to falter which I'm sure Vegeta could definitely do...unless Frieza pulls a M15 on him and nukes the planet to kill him when he realizes he's been bested by a monkey.
 

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Freeza put up a way better fight against Goku than Vegeta could've in equal forms. Vegeta gets stomped.
 

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I think Veggie ends up being around King Cold, maybe a bit above... He won't win. :rape takes this.
 

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FP Freeza fought evenly with SSJ Goku. Base Goku is obviously >> Vegeta. Freeza trounces Vegeta easily.

I really never understood why some people think this would be a close match. Does it ha anything to do with Daizenshuu 7's numbers?
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
FP Freeza fought evenly with SSJ Goku. Base Goku is obviously >> Vegeta. Freeza trounces Vegeta easily.

I really never understood why some people think this would be a close match. Does it ha anything to do with Daizenshuu 7's numbers?

Entirely.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
FP Freeza fought evenly with SSJ Goku. Base Goku is obviously >> Vegeta. Freeza trounces Vegeta easily.

I really never understood why some people think this would be a close match. Does it ha anything to do with Daizenshuu 7's numbers?

That's what I go with honestly.
 

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Base Goku >> Vegeta
100% Freeza put up an almost even fight against SSJ Goku before his stamina started to wane.

Don't really see what there is to discuss other than how badly Freeza would stomp Vegeta.
 

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I no longer treat SSJ as a multiplier. I think it is more appropriate to treat it as a new plateau of power.
Therefore, I don't think that this hypothetical SSJ Vegeta is really different from SSJ Namek Goku.
 

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I no longer treat SSJ as a multiplier. I think it is more appropriate to treat it as a new plateau of power.
Therefore, I don't think that this hypothetical SSJ Vegeta is really different from SSJ Namek Goku.

Do you think all Pre Rosat SSJs are the same?
 

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Freeza outclassed Vegeta to a point this latter couldn't even pinpoint his movements. Yet, Goku when warming up was strong enough to fight rather evenly with this Freeza, and his jump to full power was apparently significant enough to press Freeza without hands, who underwent a significant power up based on his confidence in fighting Goku. So base Goku's way above base Vegeta post Zenkai, there's no way around it. Goku could fight an opponent who trounced Vegeta in almost equal terms when just warming up.

Meanwhile, Freeza could put up somewhat of a fight against Goku until his stamina begun to drop. He was outclassed, but not by nearly the same amount Vegeta would be when fighting against base Goku based on their performance against Freeza. Freeza 100% was still strong enough to land hits on Goku and prove a real struggle to his KMHMH with his barrier.

So, if we assume Vegeta gets a similar boost on top of his SSJ as Goku did, Vegeta has no chance here.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
withheldforprivacy said:
I no longer treat SSJ as a multiplier. I think it is more appropriate to treat it as a new plateau of power.
Therefore, I don't think that this hypothetical SSJ Vegeta is really different from SSJ Namek Goku.

Do you think all Pre Rosat SSJs are the same?

I don't know how I should treat that. Maybe one can go SSJ only when base power hits its limit (so Base Goku's power does not
change after Namek) and, after that, only SSJ power grows.
 

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Fearless Instinct said:
Both are weaker than SS Goku Namek so who wins?

Vegeta even in SSJ form can't win he is probably 1,600,000 - 2,200,000 power range, thats gives a Full Power Freeza easy win.
 
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