Super And GT Comparison

[Let's Go Fearless!]

With me not having SSjinG Goku ~ Base Goku FnF, it changed my view of power scaling between the series so here goes!

FnF Base Goku ~ SSjin Vegito < SBV1 < SBV2 < SSjin3 Vegito ~ SSjin4 Goku GT < SSjin Goku FnF ~ SSjin4 Goku SD < SSjin3 Goku FnF < Syn Shenron < SSjinB Goku FnF < SSjin4 Goku Beyond ~ Golden Freeza < Omega Shenron < Hit and SSjinB Goku < SSjin4 Goget a

What do you think?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

SSG God Goku is capable of destroying half the Universe, including the Afterlife and Makai, so he and those above him in Super should still be >> GT Verse.

Goku shouldn't be much stronger than his U6 Arc self after the tournament, yet was able to put up a fight against a Beerus who was very battle hungry and entertained by the fight, despite not being entertained by Enraged SS2 Vegeta when he ought to have been just as battle hungry and was already likely above SS3 Vegetto before powering up against Vegetto. Considering that, I'd say Post-God Base Goku in general should be >> SS3 Vegetto. There likely isn't much of a difference between the anime and manga versions of him either, since Base Goku did equally as well against Hit in both mediums.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

To be fair, Goku being capable destroying half of the universe is one of the things that makes me wonder like Vegeta with power level 18K and when he powered the Earth was shaking and Cell who is like a billion times stronger than Saiyan Arc Vegeta and powered up to his full power and he also shook the Earth which shouldn't be that impressive by their standard at that point but it's still.

Similarly with Goku being almost a universal destroyer with his SSjinG form but yet when he used his SSjinB form, it treated like his base form. So what I'm saying is that these feats are always retcon as the story progress.

I'll get to the other half of your post tomorrow.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's more to do with characters controlling their Ki in order for their power to be focused on their opponents, rather than on the environment.

That and even if marking it as inconsistent, the fact still exists that it's there. Meanwhile, GT characters have no Universe level feats/statements whatsoever.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

So are you saying that GT characters can control their ki better than Super Goku? 2

I'm talking about in terms of power scaling. Also why would enrage Vegeta be stronger than SSJIN3 Vegito?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So are you saying that GT characters can control their ki better than Super Goku? 2

I'm talking about in terms of power scaling. Also why would enrage Vegeta be stronger than SSJIN3 Vegito?

I'm saying that GT characters show nothing to place them in the same league as Super high tiers.

Powerscaling means little when trying to compare series of two separate continuities. If anything, it places things even further in Super's favour, considering the gap between Universe busters and (at best) Multi-Solar System buters. If one character can destroy a Universe and another has nothing to suggest they can do the same or show the capability of competing with character A, there's no reason to believe that they can.

Enraged SS2 Vegeta doesn't necessarily have to be stronger than SS3 Vegetto. Rather, the Beerus who defeated him has to be >> SS3 Vegetto. However, placing Vegeta that high is just as valid.

- Goku believes even fused, they'd stand no chance against initial Beerus, which Vegeta manages to equal, if not surpass.
- The next episode preview for Enraged Vegeta has Goku acting as though he's unsure of how the battle of Enraged Vegeta VS Beerus will go, solidifying the mindset of him only imagining Initial Beerus' power and not estimating him to be far stronger than what he displayed.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

After watching some clips of Super in English dub version where Goku and Vegeta were training under Whis, it's safe to say that they'really both are stronger than Vegito but I still doubt that they really surpassed SSjin3 Vegito.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

To be fair, Goku being capable destroying half of the universe is one of the things that makes me wonder like Vegeta with power level 18K and when he powered the Earth was shaking and Cell who is like a billion times stronger than Saiyan Arc Vegeta and powered up to his full power and he also shook the Earth which shouldn't be that impressive by their standard at that point but it's still.

Similarly with Goku being almost a universal destroyer with his SSjinG form but yet when he used his SSjinB form, it treated like his base form. So what I'm saying is that these feats are always retcon as the story progress.

I'll get to the other half of your post tomorrow.

Cell is solar system level fam

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

To be fair, Goku being capable destroying half of the universe is one of the things that makes me wonder like Vegeta with power level 18K and when he powered the Earth was shaking and Cell who is like a billion times stronger than Saiyan Arc Vegeta and powered up to his full power and he also shook the Earth which shouldn't be that impressive by their standard at that point but it's still.

Similarly with Goku being almost a universal destroyer with his SSjinG form but yet when he used his SSjinB form, it treated like his base form. So what I'm saying is that these feats are always retcon as the story progress.

I'll get to the other half of your post tomorrow.

Cell is solar system level fam

I'm talking about Perfect Cell before he got that zenkai boost.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

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