Super Boo Analysis

[kriss-]

This is a completely unbiased approach to Super Boo. I'm currently moving on to Super Boo since I finished my Gotenks arguments. Here is a start:

1 ) Evil Boo absorbs the Good Boo and transforms into Super Boo.

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Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P2.3
Narrator: “Due to his strong anger, the evil portion that Majin Boo had kept inside himself greatly swelled up and became another Majin Boo, who came flying out…In other words, he was divided into a pure evil Majin Boo and an innocent Majin Boo…”

Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P7.4
Context: as the two Boos fight
Narrator: “The original Majin Boo had no chance of winning...This was because during the split, the majority of the power went to the evil one…"

Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power) > Evil Boo > Good Boo

Additional Comments:

Piccolo doesn't immediately react to Super Boo's new power until he does his power-burst. It's safe to determine that his Chi was more or less the same as it was while he was Innocent Boo.

2 ) Super Boo performs a power-burst to see where he now stands in power.

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3 ) Piccolo is able to read his Chi and shits himself.

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See above

4 ) Goku catches hold of this power-burst and comments on how Boo's Chi has a different feel to it.

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Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P3.1
Goku: “…This is Majin Boo, right? This ki…what is it?...”

Super Boo (Power-Burst) > Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power) > Evil Boo > Good Boo

5 ) Other Chi sensors do not inform us that Super Boo's Chi has grown exponentially. Whereas Piccolo & Dende know the truth. This means that Super Boo's power-burst was only temporary and it was performed so Boo can determine about much how powerful he's become. He's also examining himself after his energy burst. Think of this temporary boost as something that Goku SSj2 did against Yakon.

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Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P2.2-6
Context: after Boo transforms into evil Boo
Piccolo: “…Have you noticed? …This change in Majin Boo’s ki…[ ] …He’s changed…All due to some idiotic Earthlings…He’s become pure evil, and his body has become more suited toward battle…Th-this…this…”
Kuririn: “Wha…What?...D-don’t tell me you’re saying this is bad!? …It’s al-alright! We’ve got the squirts’ Fusion! Goku said that right? That Fusion was the strongest…!”
Dende: “…”
Piccolo: “…That’d be nice, but…”

Chapter: 488 (DBZ 294), P5.5-6
Trunks: “Huh!? That’s Majin Boo!?”
Goten: “He-he really has changed…”
Piccolo: “It’s not just his appearance…Everything about him is definitely greater than before…”

6 ) Piccolo doesn't immediately send the boys into the RoSaT because he still believes he has time to prepare and that Boo cannot sense Chi.

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See Above. Piccolo doesn't immediately send the boys into the RoSaT until Boo surprises them by heading towards the look-out.

7 ) Super Boo immediately senses the location of the look-out and surprises them, putting everybody in danger and forcing Piccolo's hand.

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Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P12.2
Piccolo: “Da-damn it…! This Majin Boo is able to spot our ki!”

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The second scan shows everybody only reacting to Super Boo once he arrives on the lookout. Nobody noticed a radical difference in his Chi. Therefore this proves the fact that Super Boo's initial power burst was only a temporary burst of energy.

8 ) There is now no more time for preparation and Piccolo has to immediately send the boys into the RoSaT.

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Chapter: 487 (DBZ 293), P13.5
Context: as Piccolo plans on having Goten and Trunks train in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “Can’t you tell…?! As they are now, even if they perform Fusion they can’t win, no doubt about it…! Tell them that if they don’t want to die while they’re still just little brats, then they should train as much as they can…!”

9 ) The boys now believe that Gotenks has become as powerful as Super Boo/Innocent Boo (Full Power) in only his Base form.

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Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn’t like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: “I think…that we’ve already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we’ll be about equal with Majin Boo...”

Super Boo (Power-Burst) > Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power) =/= Gotenks Base (Expected)

6 ) Gotenks is wrong.

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Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to little effect
Boo: “May I attack now?”
Gotenks: “…Wa-wait a little bit…*thinking* …Tha-that’s strange…That should have effected him a decent amount, but…Hahha~~an! He’s just pretending it didn’t hurt him…”
Piccolo: “…Th-this may be hopeless…”

Super Boo (Power-Burst) > Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power) > Gotenks Base Post

7 ) Gotenks turns into a Super Saiyan and is finally able to manage something against him.

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Chapter: 490 (DBZ 296), P12.7
Context: after Gotenks fights Boo a bit, and head-butts him
Piccolo: “He…he just might…possibly be able to de-defeat him…!

Additional Comment:

Whether parts of the fight are gag or not, Super Boo is not able to maintain complete control of the fight as he had before. He was never shown to power back up just yet and is still fighting at Innocent Boo's level.

Super Boo (Power-Burst) > Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power) >= Gotenks SSj Post > Gotenks Base Post

8 ) Super Boo has to power up to his full power to escape from the RoSaT

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Chapter: 493 (DBZ 299), P1.3
Context: following the above quote, Piccolo is of course immediately proved wrong
Piccolo: “Th-that’s un-unbelievable…! He opened a hole in the dimension with his tremendous ki power…! Th-this is bad…! He can escape.”

Super Boo (Full Power) =/= Super Boo (Power-Burst) > Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power ) >= Gotenks SSj Post > Gotenks Base Post

9 ) Gotenks turns SSj3 to match this because he is unable to at his current level of power.

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10 ) Gotenks appears to be stronger than Boo, but Boo later reveals it was part of his plan in order to defeat Gohan.

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Chapter: 499 (DBZ 305), P12.2-4
Gohan: “…That was dirty, you bastard…You ingested the two of them into yourself…”
Boo: “It’s your fault. You were stronger than I, who should have been the absolute strongest…When I sensed your distant presence, I started up on this strategy…In case maybe, just maybe, there was anyone stronger than myself…Then I hit upon it: if I absorbed that ‘Super Gotenks’ squirt I was fighting at the time, then no matter what kind of guy appeared, my throne as the strongest would not be shaken…”

Super Boo (Full Power) =/= Super Boo (Power-Burst) > Gotenks SSj3 Post > Super Boo (Initial) =/= Innocent Boo (Full Power) >= Gotenks SSj Post > Gotenks Base Post

Additional Counters To Common Misconceptions:

Gotenks Pre
http://dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3629
Gotenks Post
http://dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3731

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

But Goku said Super Boo will kill him and he could kill Fatso if he want it too.

 

[kriss-]

But Goku said Super Boo will kill him and he could kill Fatso if he want it too.

This thread didn't mention anything about Goku. It's strictly about Super Boo & Gotenks and how Gotenks actually compares to Boo.

 

[babaGAReeb 2]

kid buu> goku> super buu

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Hokuten, what gap do you give Innocent Buu and SSJ2s? Do you go with Innocent Buu being 2.5x SSJ2 Teen Gohan theory?

 

[kriss-]

Innocent Boo was unable to tank any of Vegeta's attacks. This infers the gap being smaller than the Vegeta SSjG2 vs Semi-Perfect Cell gap.

Innocent Boo was able to contend with Goku because Goku was saving Boo for the younger generation and was only stalling for time, as opposed to actually trying to kill him. The Kamehameha attack from Innocent Boo was repelled with effort because the Kamehameha actually provides Boo with an amp to his Chi, perhaps as high as 1.33x. Which would close the gap between himself and Goku.

Also, Boo is nigh indestructible to physical attacks. Hence why an army of SSj2s cannot defeat him the ordinary way. If Goku had been with Vegeta to perform the clean-up after Vegeta killed himself, Innocent Boo would have been defeated by 2 Super Saiyan 2s.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Innocent Boo was unable to tank any of Vegeta's attacks. This infers the gap being smaller than the Vegeta SSjG2 vs Semi-Perfect Cell gap.

Because Boo's body is weak.

 

[kriss-]

Doesn't matter. Facts:

a) Boo cannot one shot Vegeta with an off guard, angry explosion.
b) Boo cannot tank Vegeta.

He's closer to SSj2 tier power than SSj3, don't even get me started on this.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Boo can't tank bullets so?

 

[Six Trails]

Boo can't tank bullets so?

So the gap between the bullets and Evil Boo is smaller than the gap between 2nd form Cell and Super Vegeta.

 

[kriss-]

Boo is unable to single shot Vegeta. The gap is clearly not that big.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Nice ideas. How are these gaps?

SSJ2s- 100
Innocent Buu- 150
Initial Super Buu- 150
Base Gotenks pre- 72
SSJ Gotenks pre- 96
Base Gotenks post- 105
SSJ Gotenks post- 140
SSJ3 Gotenks- 280
FP Super Buu- 270
Ultimate Gohan- 360
SSJ3 Goku- ?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Boo is unable to single shot Vegeta. The gap is clearly not that big.

I was just talking about Boo tanking the attacks, because you can't use it to determine Boo's strength.

 

[kriss-]

Boo is unable to single shot Vegeta with an off guard, angry explosion, nuff said.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I'm not talking about one shotting you jabroni.

 

[kriss-]

Doesn't matter.

Using Boo's angry explosion on Vegeta determines his strength level. The gap level is smaller than Vegeta versus Semi Perfect Cell.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

k

 

[kriss-]

Thank-you for agreeing with me.