Super Saiyan 3

[kriss-]

What do you reckon? Does it draw a user to their limits?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I like the idea that it draw the users limit which fits to the new material.

 

[Zippy]

No if it did goku would have to be veiny like majin vegeta

 

[kriss-]

I like the idea that it draw the users limit which fits to the new material.

So you're arguing that Goku from Db Super is the same Goku from the Majin Boo Saga?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yep

 

[kriss-]

Any evidence of that?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I haven't check it yet but if Toriyama wants it as canon then no prob to me.

 

[SSJ2]

It's never implied to be a potential unlock, so no.

 

[ahill1]

I think it's just a multiplier. It was never stated or implied in the manga to be a potential unlock.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

The Daizenshuu says it brings the Saiyans "hidden power to its limits".
AT says Super Saiyan 3 is just a powered-up version of Super Saiyan
SEG just says it's a 4x increase from Super Saiyan 2

The first option automatically shows Gohan>Goku, btw.

 

[kriss-]

I'd take Akira Toriyama's opinion over both of those any-day. It essentially means that the user is forcibly making themselves stronger as opposed to just getting stronger the normal way, which is heavily implied in the new material. Hmmm... although, once one becomes a Mastered Super Saiyan, they should presently be at their limits, and there isn't a way to bypass those limits without forcibly amplifying their normal Chi; hence the introduction of God Chi.

So I'd go with it still being a potential unlock of sorts.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

80x boost from base

 

[Six Trails]

I don't buy into the potential unlock from the Daizenshuu tidbit. While I do think that Super Saiyan forms draw from dormant power, I do still think that they have static multipliers.