Super's feats and DBZ's feats

ahill1

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Okay, we know that in Super --both in the manga and in the anime -- Goku and Beerus during their fight showed big destruction feats, like putting the whole Universe in danger (correct if I am wrong though, as I am not so familiar with it), whereas later on they didn't show such feats anymore in the fights (or they weren't present in every fight). People who defend those characters being Universe busters (assuming that's the feat Goku and Beerus were about to accomplish) try to explain there not being similar feats in other fights like this one due to the fact that the writers -- or Toriyama -- already drove the point home that they are capable of such feats, so it's no longer necessary to include them in every fight.

But, isn't this a similar logic as saying that, since Raditz showed a reaction speed fast enough to dodge something at the speed of light (or faster than it, considering a generic chi blast from Piccolo could reach the moon pretty fast) then the author doesn't have to show the characters moving so fast in subsequent fights (like Gotenks taking a minute to reach Boo's home, or everyone being impressed Goku could travel between 10,000/20,000kms pretty fast) since them moving at such speed was already established?
 

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Super is a God damn disgrace. Goku could destroy the universe in three punches, yet gets hurt by bullets and is incredibly incapable of destroying the universe as ssb.

Not to mention Toppo is impressed by the speed of sound. :punk

Bring back the limo.
 

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ahill1 said:
Okay, we know that in Super --both in the manga and in the anime -- Goku and Beerus during their fight showed big destruction feats, like putting the whole Universe in danger (correct if I am wrong though, as I am not so familiar with it), whereas later on they didn't show such feats anymore in the fights (or they weren't present in every fight). People who defend those characters being Universe busters (assuming that's the feat Goku and Beerus were about to accomplish) try to explain there not being similar feats in other fights like this one due to the fact that the writers -- or Toriyama -- already drove the point home that they are capable of such feats, so it's no longer necessary to include them in every fight.

But, isn't this a similar logic as saying that, since Raditz showed a reaction speed fast enough to dodge something at the speed of light (or faster than it, considering a generic chi blast from Piccolo could reach the moon pretty fast) then the author doesn't have to show the characters moving so fast in subsequent fights (like Gotenks taking a minute to reach Boo's home, or everyone being impressed Goku could travel between 10,000/20,000kms pretty fast) since them moving at such speed was already established?

The DBVerse in general doesn't rely on feats that much in order to indicate their power. I mean, Goku took 27 hours to fly 1 million of km, while Gohan took 20 minutes to fly 5,000 km. Similarly, a camera could keep up with Goku and Cell. Boo's kamehameha, deflected by Goku, doesn't even manage to blow up the planet.

To be honest, the only feats that were done in a regular basis were Planet Busting, and if the feats were consistent with what was shown, Goku and the others would have already done a lot of damage on Earth just with their physical fight, perhaps even destroyed it.

With that said, Super is especially bad with this.
 

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Vegeta, with a PL of 18.000, caused earthquakes and storms as he powered up.
Super Saiyans transform in the blink of an eye without even breaking a glass.
 

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