Suppose the power of UI Goku ToP is 100

SIAD · Feb 25, 2022

What power do you give to the following characters:

Beerus (ToP) =

Broly SSJ =
Broly SSJFP =
Broly SSJFP (Peak) =

Gogeta Base (Arc Broly) =
Gogeta SSJ =
Gogeta SSJ2 =
Gogeta SSJ3 =
Gogeta SSJG =
Gogeta PSSJB =

Moro (OG73I) (FP) =
Angel Moro =

UI Goku (Moro) =

Merus =

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) =

Granolah (Unaccustomed) =

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) =
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) =
Mega Instinct Vegeta =

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) =

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) =
Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) =
Gas (Unaccustomed)
Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) =
Gas (Used to) =
Gas (Instincts Released) =
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) =

Beerus (Current) =

SIAD · Feb 25, 2022

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GreatSaiyaman123 · Feb 26, 2022

Beerus (ToP) = 78.125
Broly SSJ = 108
Broly SSJFP = 1,080
Broly SSJFP (Peak) = 1,620

Gogeta Base (Arc Broly) = 48
Gogeta SSJ = 120
Gogeta SSJ2 = 150
Gogeta SSJ3 = 300
Gogeta SSJG = 1,200
Gogeta PSSJB = 3,000

Moro (OG73I) (FP) = 4,800
Angel Moro = 9,600

UI Goku (Moro) = 9,600

Merus = 9,600

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 12,000

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 13,500

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 5,000
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 12,500
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 25,000

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 30,000

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 40,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) = 50,000
Gas (Unaccustomed) = 50,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) = 60,000
Gas (Used to) = 75,000
Gas (Instincts Released) = 100,000
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) = 100,000

Beerus (Current) = 781,250

SIAD · Feb 26, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Beerus (ToP) = 78.125
Broly SSJ = 108
Broly SSJFP = 1,080
Broly SSJFP (Peak) = 1,620

Gogeta Base (Arc Broly) = 48
Gogeta SSJ = 120
Gogeta SSJ2 = 150
Gogeta SSJ3 = 300
Gogeta SSJG = 1,200
Gogeta PSSJB = 3,000

Moro (OG73I) (FP) = 4,800
Angel Moro = 9,600

UI Goku (Moro) = 9,600

Merus = 9,600

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 12,000

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 13,500

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 500
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 12,500
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 25,000

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 30,000

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 40,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) = 50,000
Gas (Unaccustomed) = 50,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) = 60,000
Gas (Used to) = 75,000
Gas (Instincts Released) = 100,000
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) = 100,000

Beerus (Current) = 781,250

@GreatSaiyaman123 Do you have Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 500 or 5,000?

Do you have Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) >> Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP)?

And what power do you give to the Clone of Granolah (Vs UI Goku)?

GreatSaiyaman123 · Feb 26, 2022

500. I think the gap between Goku and Vegeta stays the same as it was in the Moro Saga until Vegeta starts to fight Granolah.

Probably? I don’t remember what happened between Gas and Granolah.

As strong as SSJB Goku. They were fighting evenly until Granolah used Moro’s magic and made Goku use UI.

SIAD · Feb 26, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
500. I think the gap between Goku and Vegeta stays the same as it was in the Moro Saga until Vegeta starts to fight Granolah.

Probably? I don’t remember what happened between Gas and Granolah.

As strong as SSJB Goku. They were fighting evenly until Granolah used Moro’s magic and made Goku use UI.

But remember that Vegeta SSJBE (Start of Arc Granolah) must be superior to Broly SSJFP (Peak). Also SSJBE Vegeta didn't seem to be completely weak compared to Granolah.

GreatSaiyaman123 · Feb 26, 2022

Oh right. He should probably be a 5,000 then. In the Moro Saga he was a 2,000 or so.

SIAD · Feb 26, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Oh right. He should probably be a 5,000 then. In the Moro Saga he was a 2,000 or so.

And by the way, do you think Controlled Instincts Released Gas is stronger than Instincts Released Gas?

SIAD · Apr 12, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Beerus (ToP) = 78.125
Broly SSJ = 108
Broly SSJFP = 1,080
Broly SSJFP (Peak) = 1,620

Gogeta Base (Arc Broly) = 48
Gogeta SSJ = 120
Gogeta SSJ2 = 150
Gogeta SSJ3 = 300
Gogeta SSJG = 1,200
Gogeta PSSJB = 3,000

Moro (OG73I) (FP) = 4,800
Angel Moro = 9,600

UI Goku (Moro) = 9,600

Merus = 9,600

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 12,000

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 13,500

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 5,000
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 12,500
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 25,000

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 30,000

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 40,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) = 50,000
Gas (Unaccustomed) = 50,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) = 60,000
Gas (Used to) = 75,000
Gas (Instincts Released) = 100,000
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) = 100,000

Beerus (Current) = 781,250

What would your new numbers be now?

Animelover5487 · Apr 12, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Beerus (ToP) = 78.125
Broly SSJ = 108
Broly SSJFP = 1,080
Broly SSJFP (Peak) = 1,620

Gogeta Base (Arc Broly) = 48
Gogeta SSJ = 120
Gogeta SSJ2 = 150
Gogeta SSJ3 = 300
Gogeta SSJG = 1,200
Gogeta PSSJB = 3,000

Moro (OG73I) (FP) = 4,800
Angel Moro = 9,600

UI Goku (Moro) = 9,600

Merus = 9,600

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 12,000

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 13,500

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 5,000
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 12,500
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 25,000

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 30,000

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 40,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) = 50,000
Gas (Unaccustomed) = 50,000
Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) = 60,000
Gas (Used to) = 75,000
Gas (Instincts Released) = 100,000
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) = 100,000

Beerus (Current) = 781,250

Lol. I like how you have Beerus getting thousands of times stronger in like a couple of months of sitting on his ass sleeping and eating.

SIAD · Apr 12, 2022

Animelover5487 said:
Lol. I like how you have Beerus getting thousands of times stronger in like a couple of months of sitting on his ass sleeping and eating.

That was because at that time we had Broly SSJ > UI Goku (ToP). Now we only have Broly SSJFP > UI Goku (ToP).

By the way, could someone give me their gaps between Broly SSJFP over UI Goku (ToP)?

GreatSaiyaman123 · Apr 12, 2022

Animelover5487 said:
Lol. I like how you have Beerus getting thousands of times stronger in like a couple of months of sitting on his ass sleeping and eating.

Actually he got stronger the moment he got up to talk Vegeta in chapter 70 or so :troll

SIAD said:
What would your new numbers be now?

I don’t know.

GreatSaiyaman123 · Apr 17, 2022

SIAD said:
What would your new numbers be now?

SSJB Goku/Vegeta (Goku Black Saga): 50

Merged Zamasu: 500

Vegeto: 2,000
~ SSJ: 5,000
~ SSJ2: 6,250
~ SSJ3: 12,500
~ SSJG: 50,000
~ SSJB: 62,500
~ Final Kamehameha: 562,500

Beerus: 500,000

PSSJB Goku/PSSJB Vegeta/Toppo/Hit/Golden Freeza/17: 500

LSSJ Kale: 375

SSJ Kefla: 750
Ultimate Gohan: 750

PSSJB Goku (Pseudo Kaio-Ken): 1,000
UI Sign Goku: 100,000

SSJBE Vegeta: 10,000

UI Goku: 500,000

Jiren: 400,000
~ Beyond limits: 480,000

Belmond: 450,000

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Broly): 750

Broly: 750
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ LSSJ: 375,000
~ Peak: 562,500

Gogeta: 15,000
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ PSSJB: 937,500

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Namek): 1,000
Dai Kaioshin Boo: 400

Moro (Peak on Namek): 750

2 months later…

Android 18: 450
Android 17: 500

Piccolo: 750
Gohan: 1,500

Super Saganbo: 3,750

PSSJB Goku: 5,000
~ UI Sign (Suppressed): 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

Moro: 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

SSJB Vegeta: 10,000
~ SSJBE: 200,000

Moro (OG7-3i absorbed): 500,000
Merus: 1,000,000

UI Goku: 1,250,000

Moro (Full power): 625,000
~ UI: 1,000,000
~ Merged with Earth: 2,000,000

Susano’o Goku: 2,500,000

PSSJB Goku (Granolah): 10,000
~ UI: 2,500,000

PSSJB Vegeta (Granolah): 20,000
~ SSJBE: 400,000
~ Adapted: 2,400,000
~ Ultra Ego: 4,800,000
~ Peak: 6,000,000

Granolah: 3,000,000
~ Full power: 7,500,000

Gas: 8,000,000
~ Full power: 10,000,000
~ Transformed: 20,000,000

Beerus (Ultra Ego): 150,000,000 ?

SIAD · Apr 18, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
SSJB Goku/Vegeta (Goku Black Saga): 50

Merged Zamasu: 500

Vegeto: 2,000
~ SSJ: 5,000
~ SSJ2: 6,250
~ SSJ3: 12,500
~ SSJG: 50,000
~ SSJB: 125,000
~ Final Kamehameha: 156,250

Beerus: 150,000

PSSJB Goku/PSSJB Vegeta/Toppo/Hit/Golden Freeza/17: 500

LSSJ Kale: 375

SSJ Kefla: 750
Ultimate Gohan: 750

PSSJB Goku (Pseudo Kaio-Ken): 1,000
UI Sign Goku: 25,000

SSJBE Vegeta: 10,000

UI Goku: 125,000

Jiren: 100,000
~ Beyond limits: 120,000

Belmond: 90,000

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Broly): 750

Broly: 750
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ LSSJ: 150,000

Gogeta: ,000
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ PSSJB: 937,500

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Namek): 1,000
Dai Kaioshin Boo: 400

Moro (Peak on Namek): 750

2 months later…

Android 18: 450
Android 17: 500

Piccolo: 750
Gohan: 1,500

Super Saganbo: 3,750

PSSJB Goku: 5,000
~ UI Sign: 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

Moro: 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

SSJB Vegeta: 10,000
~ SSJBE: 200,000

Moro (OG7-3i absorbed): 500,000
Merus: 1,000,000

UI Goku: 1,250,000

Moro (Full power): 625,000
~ UI: 1,000,000
~ Merged with Earth: 2,000,000

Susano’o Goku: 2,500,000

PSSJB Goku (Granolah): 10,000
~ UI: 2,500,000

PSSJB Vegeta (Granolah): 20,000
~ SSJBE: 400,000
~ Adapted: 2,400,000
~ Ultra Ego: 4,800,000
~ Peak: 6,000,000

Granolah: 3,000,000
~ Full power: 7,500,000

Gas: 8,000,000
~ Full power: 10,000,000
~ Transformed: 20,000,000

Beerus (Ultra Ego): 150,000,000 ?

I like your list, at what level do you have UI Sing Goku (Deleted)?

Why do you have UI Sing Goku (Beyond Limits) > Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart)?

Honestly, Moro began to fight seriously against UI Sing Goku (Beyond Limits) and began to get the geek. Vegeta could feel UI Sing Goku's Ki and even knew that he was stronger than Goku.

Just as you power down Piccolo and the Androids, I power them up. Now I have the Androids between Gohan (ToP) and Goku PSSJB Paseudo Kaioken. I have Gohan and Piccolo between Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken and Vegeta SSJBE.

GreatSaiyaman123 · Apr 24, 2022

SIAD said:
I like your list, at what level do you have UI Sing Goku (Deleted)?

Why do you have UI Sing Goku (Beyond Limits) > Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart)?

Honestly, Moro began to fight seriously against UI Sing Goku (Beyond Limits) and began to get the geek. Vegeta could feel UI Sing Goku's Ki and even knew that he was stronger than Goku.

Just as you power down Piccolo and the Androids, I power them up. Now I have the Androids between Gohan (ToP) and Goku PSSJB Paseudo Kaioken. I have Gohan and Piccolo between Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken and Vegeta SSJBE.

Just did some changes to SSJB Vegetto, ToP UI Goku, Jiren, Belmond, Beerus and Broly.

I don't think Goku was comparing Vegeta's power to his own anymore when talking about surpassing him. Goku was genuinely giving Moro a run for his money and everybody was thinking he could win before his stamina started to fade. Vegeta never stood a chance before Spirit Fission was revealed.

I think I could also have 18 and 17 at 675 and 750 respectively. It's strange that 17 would make no improvements in the two months when he could get up to SSJB in the years prior.

SIAD · Apr 24, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Just did some changes to SSJB Vegetto, ToP UI Goku, Jiren, Belmond, Beerus and Broly.

I don't think Goku was comparing Vegeta's power to his own anymore when talking about surpassing him. Goku was genuinely giving Moro a run for his money and everybody was thinking he could win before his stamina started to fade. Vegeta never stood a chance before Spirit Fission was revealed.

I think I could also have 18 and 17 at 675 and 750 respectively. It's strange that 17 would make no improvements in the two months when he could get up to SSJB in the years prior.

Vegeta SSJBE fared better than UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits) against Moro OG73I (Suppressed).

Do you have Broly SSJFP (Peak) > Moro OG73I (FP)?

GreatSaiyaman123 · Apr 26, 2022

SIAD said:
Vegeta SSJBE fared better than UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits) against Moro OG73I (Suppressed).

Do you have Broly SSJFP (Peak) > Moro OG73I (FP)?

Only because of Spirit Fission. People thought Vegeta was going insane for trying to fight Moro before that.

No. Goku says Moro is the toughest guy he ever fought, meaning Moro OG73I (FP) > FPSSJ Broly (Peak).

Jiren (Beyond limits): 480,000
Beerus (Before Ultra Ego): 540,000
FPSSJ Broly (Peak): 562,500
Moro OG73I (FP): 625,000

SIAD · Apr 26, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Only because of Spirit Fission. People thought Vegeta was going insane for trying to fight Moro before that.

No. Goku says Moro is the toughest guy he ever fought, meaning Moro OG73I (FP) > FPSSJ Broly (Peak).

Jiren (Beyond limits): 480,000
Beerus (Before Ultra Ego): 540,000
FPSSJ Broly (Peak): 562,500
Moro OG73I (FP): 625,000

Watch the fight between Moro OG73I (Suppressed) vs. Vegeta SSJBE in Chapter 62, where Moro had to give Vegeta 4 hits to make him lose his transformation and watch how in Chapter 63, Moro OG73I (Suppressed) with a single hit does for a newly recovered Goku to lose his UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits) state.

SIAD · May 3, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
SSJB Goku/Vegeta (Goku Black Saga): 50

Merged Zamasu: 500

Vegeto: 2,000
~ SSJ: 5,000
~ SSJ2: 6,250
~ SSJ3: 12,500
~ SSJG: 50,000
~ SSJB: 62,500
~ Final Kamehameha: 562,500

Beerus: 500,000

PSSJB Goku/PSSJB Vegeta/Toppo/Hit/Golden Freeza/17: 500

LSSJ Kale: 375

SSJ Kefla: 750
Ultimate Gohan: 750

PSSJB Goku (Pseudo Kaio-Ken): 1,000
UI Sign Goku: 100,000

SSJBE Vegeta: 10,000

UI Goku: 500,000

Jiren: 400,000
~ Beyond limits: 480,000

Belmond: 450,000

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Broly): 750

Broly: 750
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ LSSJ: 375,000
~ Peak: 562,500

Gogeta: 15,000
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ PSSJB: 937,500

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Namek): 1,000
Dai Kaioshin Boo: 400

Moro (Peak on Namek): 750

2 months later…

Android 18: 450
Android 17: 500

Piccolo: 750
Gohan: 1,500

Super Saganbo: 3,750

PSSJB Goku: 5,000
~ UI Sign (Suppressed): 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

Moro: 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

SSJB Vegeta: 10,000
~ SSJBE: 200,000

Moro (OG7-3i absorbed): 500,000
Merus: 1,000,000

UI Goku: 1,250,000

Moro (Full power): 625,000
~ UI: 1,000,000
~ Merged with Earth: 2,000,000

Susano’o Goku: 2,500,000

PSSJB Goku (Granolah): 10,000
~ UI: 2,500,000

PSSJB Vegeta (Granolah): 20,000
~ SSJBE: 400,000
~ Adapted: 2,400,000
~ Ultra Ego: 4,800,000
~ Peak: 6,000,000

Granolah: 3,000,000
~ Full power: 7,500,000

Gas: 8,000,000
~ Full power: 10,000,000
~ Transformed: 20,000,000

Beerus (Ultra Ego): 150,000,000 ?

Where do you have Super Yuzun?

SIAD · May 19, 2022

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
SSJB Goku/Vegeta (Goku Black Saga): 50

Merged Zamasu: 500

Vegeto: 2,000
~ SSJ: 5,000
~ SSJ2: 6,250
~ SSJ3: 12,500
~ SSJG: 50,000
~ SSJB: 62,500
~ Final Kamehameha: 562,500

Beerus: 500,000

PSSJB Goku/PSSJB Vegeta/Toppo/Hit/Golden Freeza/17: 500

LSSJ Kale: 375

SSJ Kefla: 750
Ultimate Gohan: 750

PSSJB Goku (Pseudo Kaio-Ken): 1,000
UI Sign Goku: 100,000

SSJBE Vegeta: 10,000

UI Goku: 500,000

Jiren: 400,000
~ Beyond limits: 480,000

Belmond: 450,000

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Broly): 750

Broly: 750
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ LSSJ: 375,000
~ Peak: 562,500

Gogeta: 15,000
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ PSSJB: 937,500

PSSJB Goku/Vegeta (Namek): 1,000
Dai Kaioshin Boo: 400

Moro (Peak on Namek): 750

2 months later…

Android 18: 450
Android 17: 500

Piccolo: 750
Gohan: 1,500

Super Saganbo: 3,750

PSSJB Goku: 5,000
~ UI Sign (Suppressed): 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

Moro: 200,000
~ Full power: 250,000

SSJB Vegeta: 10,000
~ SSJBE: 200,000

Moro (OG7-3i absorbed): 500,000
Merus: 1,000,000

UI Goku: 1,250,000

Moro (Full power): 625,000
~ UI: 1,000,000
~ Merged with Earth: 2,000,000

Susano’o Goku: 2,500,000

PSSJB Goku (Granolah): 10,000
~ UI: 2,500,000

PSSJB Vegeta (Granolah): 20,000
~ SSJBE: 400,000
~ Adapted: 2,400,000
~ Ultra Ego: 4,800,000
~ Peak: 6,000,000

Granolah: 3,000,000
~ Full power: 7,500,000

Gas: 8,000,000
~ Full power: 10,000,000
~ Transformed: 20,000,000

Beerus (Ultra Ego): 150,000,000 ?

Let's continue the list of powers based on what happened in Chapter 84?

Suppose the power of UI Goku ToP is 100

Elite

Elite

Super Elite

Elite

Super Elite

Elite

Super Elite

Elite

Elite

High Class Warrior

Elite

Super Elite

Super Elite

Elite

Super Elite

Elite

Super Elite

Elite

Elite

Elite