The Power Of Dragonball Z Compared To Marvel/ DC

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Apparently King Kai said that Beerus has enough power to send Goku flying to the furthest ends of the Universe just by snorting at him.

This is more impressive than Silver Age Superman sneezing and destroying a Solar System because a Universe is a myriad times larger than a mere Solar System.

It appears they are purposely mimicking Superman's feats to make Z Warriors appear more powerful -at least I think so.

Beerus also tapped his nail and destroyed half a planet. That is some wicked energy! Enough to single shot most planetary threats in DC & Marvel.

The physical power of Beerus -at full power, is enough to gradually destroy the Universe just from him PHYSICALLY PUNCHING. This excludes a fully powered Chi attack. Feats dictate that physically fully powered punches from Beerus have enough force to rip apart the entire Universe.

It is also stated twice that if Beerus is provoked he has enough power to destroy the entire Universe -presumably in one blast. Than King Kai says he has enough power to destroy absolutely everything.

Three statements to prove Beerus can destroy the Universe in one shot with a Chi attack.
And a feat to prove Beerus can rip apart the Unvierse just from physically punching.

The power of his punches can actually extend 'beyond' the known Universe and into the dimensions far, far beyond it.

His speed? He is able to traverse from his temple to another galaxy in less than two minutes.

Let's use an actual galaxy to determine this speed. We'll put the galaxy at a width of 1 million light years, which is reasonable enough. (which is 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles wide). Beerus was able to cross this distance in under 2 minutes, which makes him hilariously faster than light.

So what can Beerus do with speed beyond light speed and punching power strong enough to rip apart Universes, or Chi attacks strong enough to blast an entire Universe apart?

Well...

Thor has been known to cover entire planets in storms, caused earth quakes and destroyed mountains from his strongest attacks. Survived sun level attacks and even Galaxy level attacks from the Celestials -whom bested Odin. But all this pales in comparison to a Universal level physical attack. One shot and Thor explodes into tiny pieces.

Superboy Prime has been hurt from Barry Allen and bloodied. Barry is slower and weaker than Wally West -whose strongest attacks are that of a white dwarf star. Meaning Superboy Prime cannot tank levels of such a magnitude. Universal level attacks? One shot he's dead.

Silver Age Superman's best feats are sneezing a solar system away and pulling several planets. Well, as I proved above, snorting someone to the other side of the Universe is infinitely more impressive than sneezing a solar system. Universal strength is much greater than pulling several planets as well. Being able to create any super power? He would get speed blitz'd before this happens.

Odin at his highest showings only ever approached Galaxy level feats. He has The Odin Force and can do a-lot, but not anything with it (like the idiot Kamicollo9 from Kanzenshuu thinks), but what Odin lacks is speed. He would get speed blitz'd before he could blink.

Bye bye Odin.

Galactus has been challenged and contested by Odin, and even knocked out. He has also been challenged by the Odin Force while it was wielded by Old King Thor and had himself one hell of a battle. A majority of the time, Galactus & Odin are on relatively the same level, with Galactus carrying a decent advantage in power. However, not enough to classify him as a Universal buster. He is also known to be more physical than a cosmic being -it's stated so don't even try an argue.

Good-night Galactus.

That's as far as I'm willing to go right now. I'm certain Beerus can defeat all of the above fairly easily, but as for as cosmic entities go -such as Eternity, Death I'm not sure they are quite there yet.
 

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I can see him beating Odin but not Galactus. Fully Fed Galactus was stated to be eternity's equal so the gods aint touching him yet.
 

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It would be nice if you source your claims by giving a scan or clip js
 

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1. I didn't read anything of your nerdish OP wall.
2. DBZ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any franchise.
3. BODB Goku>>>Strongest version of Superman.
 

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Beerus VS Odin is still highly debatable, since we're unsure on the size of the DB Universe, other than it consists of 4 Galaxies, along with 3 other separate dimensions. Assuming that was a Universe level feat, the Gods are stronger than Odin, but Odin's still faster. They're still nothing to FP Galactus or the stronger incarnations of Superman though.
 

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Also, it should be pointed out that Marvel powers are more diverse than DBZ powers. For the most part, DBZ consists of feats based of how much ki a character can put out, and how much destruction that ki can cause.

Compare this to Dark Phoenix, who isn't considered a galaxy buster in the most direct sense, but she can de-atomize matter with her thoughts. And hibernate inside the sun.

It's a different form of destruction, but equally as formibable when compared to the likes of high level DB peeps.
 

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Epicnessbeyond said:
I can see him beating Odin but not Galactus. Fully Fed Galactus was stated to be eternity's equal so the gods aint touching him yet.
Galactus was never stated to be Eternity's equal. People 'assume' so because he shook Eternity's hand and Eternity had respect for him. This doesn't mean the two are equals. I can shake Brock Lesnar's hand and he may have respect for me, but does it mean we're physical equals? Absolutely not.

To debunk this, when Thanos has the Infinity Gauntlet, Galactus was stated to be a 'foot soldier' for Eternity. Implying a huge difference in power.

Since Galactus is a physical being, it means physical attacks can effect him and have been shown to when Odin physically knocked him out.

Beerus destroys him.
 

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Skyrunner said:
Also, it should be pointed out that Marvel powers are more diverse than DBZ powers. For the most part, DBZ consists of feats based of how much ki a character can put out, and how much destruction that ki can cause.

Compare this to Dark Phoenix, who isn't considered a galaxy buster in the most direct sense, but she can de-atomize matter with her thoughts. And hibernate inside the sun.

It's a different form of destruction, but equally as formibable when compared to the likes of high level DB peeps.
Fair point, but as we saw in Super, Beerus can hold someone down by thinking about it, be it from ki or telekinesis, so he could take on Dark Pheonix and win I think.
 

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Anybody who doesn't have reaction time that exceeds light speed is getting speed blitz'd. There was only a handful of Marvel & DC beings who possess this. Even Superman doesn't. He 'takes time' to build up to light speed and cannot fight at that level either -like Z Fighters commonly do.
 

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Even Superman doesn't. He 'takes time' to build up to light speed and cannot fight at that level either -like Z Fighters commonly do.
The only Z-Senshi with even close to Light Speed are the Gods and the SS4s in GT, unless you take into account the inconsistency of Kaio-sama not tracking SSJ Goku and Freeza in filler. FTL speed is far from common for the Z-Senshi.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
h0kuten said:
Even Superman doesn't. He 'takes time' to build up to light speed and cannot fight at that level either -like Z Fighters commonly do.
The only Z-Senshi with even close to Light Speed are the Gods and the SS4s in GT, unless you take into account the inconsistency of Kaio-sama not tracking SSJ Goku and Freeza in filler. FTL speed is far from common for the Z-Senshi.
I disagree. Beerus' feats put him at least a billion times light and thats movement speed. For combat Speed they reach light against Raditz.
 

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h0kuten said:
Epicnessbeyond said:
I can see him beating Odin but not Galactus. Fully Fed Galactus was stated to be eternity's equal so the gods aint touching him yet.
Galactus was never stated to be Eternity's equal. People 'assume' so because he shook Eternity's hand and Eternity had respect for him. This doesn't mean the two are equals. I can shake Brock Lesnar's hand and he may have respect for me, but does it mean we're physical equals? Absolutely not.

To debunk this, when Thanos has the Infinity Gauntlet, Galactus was stated to be a 'foot soldier' for Eternity. Implying a huge difference in power.

Since Galactus is a physical being, it means physical attacks can effect him and have been shown to when Odin physically knocked him out.

Beerus destroys him.
Are you actually trying to say Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifer is below Eternity. :troll2
 

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Epicnessbeyond said:
I disagree. Beerus' feats put him at least a billion times light and thats movement speed. For combat Speed they reach light against Raditz.
You seem to have ignored the part where I talked about the Gods...

FTL against Raditz? I hope you're joking about that dub statement.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Epicnessbeyond said:
I disagree. Beerus' feats put him at least a billion times light and thats movement speed. For combat Speed they reach light against Raditz.
You seem to have ignored the part where I talked about the Gods...

FTL against Raditz? I hope you're joking about that dub statement.
The you are saying it, it seems like Gods are the first ones who are ftl even in combat which makes no sense. Movement Speed maybe but no way in Combat speed. Also Raditz having FtL combat speed makes sense. Roshi's KHH literally took 3-5 seconds max to reach the moon. Goku in the 21st Budokai could react to that easy. He has to have at least Sub-Relativistic reactions to do that. Same thing was done by Piccolo and Raditz could easily react to that. Also Makkankasappo was called light of death and it being the first light speed attack imo makes sense.
 

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If Goku was sub-relativistic at the 21st TB, then Popo's "Quicker than Lightning" statement would make absolutely no sense due to being so underwhelming. Roshi's feat is nothing short of an outlier, as the only times a Ki blast speed feat of that magnitude was replicated were with Piccolo's moon buster (which is debatably an outlier anyway) and SS2 Gohan's Kamehameha. Whilst Combat Speed =/ = Flight Speed in many situations, there have been many where it was implied to be comparable, the main examples being Goku arriving to fight the Ginyus and shocking Butta and SSJ Gotenks' flight around the world (the latter being just Sub-Relativistic).

DBZ only reached FTL combat speed outside of God tier anime-wise with Kaio-sama not tracking SSJ Goku/Freeza's movements, and even that is once more, most likely an outlier.
 

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