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Well, I'd like to share with you guys the impression I always got regarding the Ultimate state (yeah, I kind of consider it a state, but a permanent one) after reading the manga.
Super has obviously taken a way a big part of my theory, but just ignoring Super and going by the manga only that's what I think about the Ultimate state.
Okay, when old Kaioshin was introducced in the story, he said that the vilain that got him stuck in the Zeta sword did fear something else than power (which he lacked). Goku, interested in finding out more about this said amazing ability, tried to "gaslight" him into saying that that's about. Old Kai then stated that the feared power was a pshysic power that allowed him to draw out one's power to its limit, but to far beyond its limits. Then, Goku stated it seems something pretty common, cliche, to which old Kai stated his was different because he can go beyond the normal limits, which nobody eles can (don't remember if Babidi's power could also go beyond limit, tbh):
Then, completing the ritual and unlocking Gohan's powers to beyond its limits, Gohan got up, already in a hurry to get there and save everyone. But Gohan still seemed just like himself before having his power unlocked: his chi (since nobody got blown away by it) and his traits (that seemed as innocent in the beginning of the arc):
Then, upon doing what Old Kaioshin said him to do (firing it up just like SSJ), Gohan accessed his "beyond limits" powers and had his physical traits (facial's ones were the most notable ones) completely changed... it's like powering up just like turning a SSJ was the final touch to complete the ritual and turn into this awesome warrior.
We can see this change is facial traits, in which his eyes are fully outlined, his face is more "filled" and adult-ish. Not just his face, but Piccolo caught into a change in his chi nature as well, stating that he is no longer so sweet and gentle... a different chi signature as well.
So, it's like the ritual (completed after Gohan powering up) brought Gohan into his peak... into his ultimate status as a warrior... not only is he the most powerful one, but also shares the perfect physical and chi's traits that he himself could only reach with years of training. Old Kaioshin brought it all without the need of Gohan having to spend all the time training, even more when it's a potential beyond its limits, so odds are that Gohan couldn't get there even with hard years of training. It remembers me a little about Gon from HxH, in his final battle against Pitou (I remember that Vertical has also made the same analogy before)... where Gon forced himself to grow up to his peak, brought what he should look like after years of training into that moment. But of course, unlike Gon, the Ultimate power up wasn't detrimental, it was still a more natural process.
I also always got the impression that the traits unlocked after Gohan powering up were permanent... they'd be still there with Gohan even if he himself slacked off in his training regimen, which can be seen after the battle ended, in the end of Z (where he still has the most blatant trait, the fully outlined eyes) and in GT.
Of course, according to Super Gohan could lose access to the Ultimate and look just like he looked before, but that's never the impression I got when reading the manga. I am not saying the manga specifically told Gohan couldn't lose his Ultimate "state" though, so don't get me wrong.
Super has obviously taken a way a big part of my theory, but just ignoring Super and going by the manga only that's what I think about the Ultimate state.
Okay, when old Kaioshin was introducced in the story, he said that the vilain that got him stuck in the Zeta sword did fear something else than power (which he lacked). Goku, interested in finding out more about this said amazing ability, tried to "gaslight" him into saying that that's about. Old Kai then stated that the feared power was a pshysic power that allowed him to draw out one's power to its limit, but to far beyond its limits. Then, Goku stated it seems something pretty common, cliche, to which old Kai stated his was different because he can go beyond the normal limits, which nobody eles can (don't remember if Babidi's power could also go beyond limit, tbh):
Then, completing the ritual and unlocking Gohan's powers to beyond its limits, Gohan got up, already in a hurry to get there and save everyone. But Gohan still seemed just like himself before having his power unlocked: his chi (since nobody got blown away by it) and his traits (that seemed as innocent in the beginning of the arc):
Then, upon doing what Old Kaioshin said him to do (firing it up just like SSJ), Gohan accessed his "beyond limits" powers and had his physical traits (facial's ones were the most notable ones) completely changed... it's like powering up just like turning a SSJ was the final touch to complete the ritual and turn into this awesome warrior.
We can see this change is facial traits, in which his eyes are fully outlined, his face is more "filled" and adult-ish. Not just his face, but Piccolo caught into a change in his chi nature as well, stating that he is no longer so sweet and gentle... a different chi signature as well.
So, it's like the ritual (completed after Gohan powering up) brought Gohan into his peak... into his ultimate status as a warrior... not only is he the most powerful one, but also shares the perfect physical and chi's traits that he himself could only reach with years of training. Old Kaioshin brought it all without the need of Gohan having to spend all the time training, even more when it's a potential beyond its limits, so odds are that Gohan couldn't get there even with hard years of training. It remembers me a little about Gon from HxH, in his final battle against Pitou (I remember that Vertical has also made the same analogy before)... where Gon forced himself to grow up to his peak, brought what he should look like after years of training into that moment. But of course, unlike Gon, the Ultimate power up wasn't detrimental, it was still a more natural process.
I also always got the impression that the traits unlocked after Gohan powering up were permanent... they'd be still there with Gohan even if he himself slacked off in his training regimen, which can be seen after the battle ended, in the end of Z (where he still has the most blatant trait, the fully outlined eyes) and in GT.
Of course, according to Super Gohan could lose access to the Ultimate and look just like he looked before, but that's never the impression I got when reading the manga. I am not saying the manga specifically told Gohan couldn't lose his Ultimate "state" though, so don't get me wrong.
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