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A statement without sufficient evidence is an opinion and hardly a fact. Likewise, a predetermined expectation within a story is still burdened by the merits of actuality and confirmation -whether the expected event is true or not, remains to be seen until it is either proven to be or isn't; characters are most certainly fallible and everything else is burdened by subjectivity, especially if involves unconfirmed statements or non-contradicted -but neither confirmed, opinions. If one is talking about a story, I wonder what it means to say that story is "true". I can see how it could be consistent.

Take mathematics. That is a collection of stories. They may help one understand the world, but I don't think any mathematical story yet created fits reality. Those stories are either too continuous or too discrete to fit reality perfectly and they are objective to a fault. Reality is neither continuous nor discrete and it contains subjectivity.

Take the Judeo-Christian book Genesis. I accept Bloom's view that the J portion contains stories written perhaps by Solomon's mother Bathsheba. Because that implies the stories are not about actual people does that make them false? I don't think so. Unlike the mathematical stories, these stories are predominately subjective. The people in those stories stand for us. When we read them we make them real through our understanding. Their conflicts and how we see them resolve provide choices for us and each choice builds our characters. We become the stories' truth.

So, I am not looking for a literary story to be factual. It just needs to become real in my subjectivity. Then I am its truth.

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Hola. I have arrived.

Which statements immediately come to mind in this regard?
 

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Anything pertaining to the Majin Boo Saga, since it is the most hotly debated topic in the community.
 

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Just think of a statement that most people see a certain way and how you see it differently.
 

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As the saying goes:
Characters are fallible, the author is omniscient.

As the saying goes, but for Dragon Ball:
Characters are omniscient, but the forgetful author is fallible.

Toriyama already said that he don't give a damn for what is stated.
 

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