Top 5 strongest Pokemon nowdays?

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Strongest going solely by stats? Or by viability/usefulness?
 

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Rayquaza Mega
Salamance Mega
Areceus Normal
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Kyogre Primal

Something like that
 

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Solely by stats.

Wouldn't Mewtwo be up there?
 

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By stats yeah mewtwo would be up there. The top 5 by stats are

Mega Mewtwo X/Y & Mega Rayquaza (tie)
Kyogre/Groudon Primal

Arceus would be the strongest non-mega/primal, based on stats alone
 

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Uchiha said:
Rayquaza Mega
Salamance Mega
Areceus Normal
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Kyogre Primal

Something like that
Isn't Primal Groudon > Primal Kyogre, though?
 

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You mean in terms of usefulness? Not sure
 

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Yeah, at least that's what I've heard. You're a good competitive player, so I figured you'd know, haha.
 

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lol well I don't play Ubers but you're probably right
 

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Kyogre's been on top ever since its introduction, but with the Primal Forms Groudon's dethroned it, yeah.
 

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Damn, So Mewtwo's been relagated to like Freeza status or something, lol. That sucks.
 

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Stark said:
Uchiha said:
Rayquaza Mega
Salamance Mega
Areceus Normal
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Kyogre Primal

Something like that
Isn't Primal Groudon > Primal Kyogre, though?
1v1 Groudon beats Kyogre because it can switch in on Kyogre's STAB moves due to Desolate Land and doesn't take much damage from Kyogre's Ice Beam, while Kyogre can NOT under any circumstance switch into a Precipice Blades. It's a guaranteed 2HKO regardless of defensive investment if I recall correctly.
 

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Groudon was always better than that turd burglar Kyogre.
 

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Kamikaze Pyro said:
Groudon was always better than that turd burglar Kyogre.
That's why Kyogre was considered one, if not the best Uber Pokémon, and Groudon nothing special pre mega.
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