Where do you have: #19 ( initial ); #20 ( initial ); Piccolo ( trunks arc ) and Vegeta ( trunks arc ) ?p123 said:Yardrat Goku 500,000,000
Trunks 400,000,000
Mecha Freeza 300,000,000
Namek Goku 275,000,000
Organic Freeza 260,000,000
Suppressed Mecha Freeza 150,000,000
King Cold 150,000,000
I don't know... I'd like to let #19 ( initial ) a bit stronger than Goku SSJ ( yardrat ), but this is not possible. Gero said that #19's power increased dramatically after absorbing the Kamehameha. So #19 ( post kamehameha ) >>> #19 ( pre ). But even so Vegeta said that #19 ( post absorptions ) is not as bad as the rumors, that is, #19 ( post ) is not that stronger than Future Trunks.p123 said:That's a bit more difficult. It's really hard to do 19 and 20, I gotta look into it more.
Vegeta 100
Goku 93-95
Trunks 86-89
Piccolo 75
Is generally what I like to use, sometimes I have to make it tighter though.
Yea, but where you'd have Vegeta and Piccolo ( trunks arrival ) ?p123 said:Yea 19/20 are tough, the absorption rate doesn't seem to add up. A blast from Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta seems to be the same as absorbing Tien, Krillen and Yamcha. Doesn't make sense. You'd think an amplified blast is super ridiculously strong. There needs to be more of a consensus there. All the while it does feel that Super Saiyan is a specific level that they can't really get past. It seems unlikely that Vegeta should be 5x stronger than Goku was on Namek. It feels like a Super Saiyan is a specific range.
IMO King Cold should be equal to Freeza ( Suppressed ). Too small the gap between Goku and Trunks, should be like a 80% gap IMO.Pyrus said:Yamcha - 100,000
Tenshinhan - 200,000
Kuririn - 800,000
Gohan - 1,000,000
Piccolo - 3,200,000
Vegeta - 3,300,000
King Cold - 115,000,000
Mecha King Ghidorah - 155,000,000
Trunks - 3,600,000
~Super Saiyan - 180,000,000
Goku - 3,800,000
~Super Saiyan - 190,000,000
Android #19 (initial) - 150,000,000
Android #20 (initial) - 160,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku (sick) - 230,000,000
I'd think Trunks should be at least 1.5x stronger than Mecha Freeza... was strongly implied that Future Trunks could instantly defeat Furiza and his father.Mike said:King Cold: 120,000,000
Mecha Freeza: 156,250,000
SS Trunks: 200,000,000
SS Goku: 225,000,000
That's all I have at the moment.
Why do you have Kuririn that stronger than Tenshinhan?Kyo said:Yamcha: 80,000
Tenshinhan: 160,000
Kuririn: 700,000
Son Gohan: 1,000,000
Piccolo: 7,500,000
Vegeta: 7,700,000
King Cold: 180,000,000
Mecha Freeza: 310,000,000
Future Trunks: 9,600,000
~ Super Saiyan: 480,000,000
Son Goku: 11,200,000
~ Super Saiyan: 560,000,000
Android 19 (initial): 400,000,000(?)
Android 20 (initial): 450,000,000(?)
Sick SSJ Goku: 660,000,000
Not too sure about the initial androids, I tend to just ignore them these days.
I don't have suppressed Freeza on here. Goku and Trunks are fair with a 5% gap -- more than Vegeta and Zarbon.ahill1 said:IMO King Cold should be equal to Freeza ( Suppressed ). Too small the gap between Goku and Trunks, should be like a 80% gap IMO.Pyrus said:Yamcha - 100,000
Tenshinhan - 200,000
Kuririn - 800,000
Gohan - 1,000,000
Piccolo - 3,200,000
Vegeta - 3,300,000
King Cold - 115,000,000
Mecha King Ghidorah - 155,000,000
Trunks - 3,600,000
~Super Saiyan - 180,000,000
Goku - 3,800,000
~Super Saiyan - 190,000,000
Android #19 (initial) - 150,000,000
Android #20 (initial) - 160,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku (sick) - 230,000,000
Why Kuririn is that stronger than Tenshinhan? Overall great list.