Trying to match Super Buu>SSJ3 Goku with the new material

[withheldforprivacy]

After experimenting for a while with SSJ3 Goku>Gohan and Kid Buu>Super Buu, let's see if i can manage to make
the other way around make sense at BOG/DBS...

1. Roshi compared Enraged Vegeta to Goku, not Gohan or Gotenks.
Roshi knew of the Goku/Vegeta rivalry and had never sensed Gotenks/Gohan. When Beerus was fighting the z team,
with so many powers running around, Roshi didn't focus on a certain PL, like when Vegeta fought himself.

2. Beerus compared Enraged Vegeta to Goku, not Gohan.
What Beerus actually said was ''you're more fun than the other Saiyan i fought at that small planet''. In other words,
Beerus was strictly talking about Saiyans here. Did he even know Gohan was a Saiyan? No.

3. Vegeta was freaked when he was informed Goku lost to Beerus, which makes no sense unless Goku was their
strongest asset.
Beerus had been in Vegeta's head since he was a child

4. Goku was stated to be no1.
Gohan was not a warrior at that point, so he didn't count. Just like the lion is the king of savannah because
elephants and giraffes don't hunt.

 

[kriss-]

1. The first point is entirely irrelevant. Beerus stated that fighting Goku was more fun than fighting Ultimate Gohan.

2. See point point 2, there are a dozen statements in the original Dragonball Manga and Dragonball Z where fun always correlates to strength.

3 & 4. An irrelevant point, it doesn't debunk point 1 or 2.

 

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I know fun means strength, i'm just saying that, by saying ''more fun than the other Saiyan'', Beerus compared
Saiyans only and he didn't know Gohan was one.

 

[kriss-]

Whis specifically told Beerus how many Saiyans were on Earth and how many there were that could become Super Saiyans, Beerus also has experience with the Saiyans; arguing that he wouldn't know whose who is just a reach. It also doesn't matter, he said that fighting Vegeta was more fun than that Saiyan on North Kai's planet.

In other-words, fighting Goku was the most fun he had up until Raging Vegeta, regardless of who was a Saiyan or not.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

1st is irrelevant.
2nd: This is silly, Whis told Beerus there [are] saiyans on planet Earth which include Vegeta therefore Beerus must know that Gohan is a saiyan.

3rd and 4th are poor argument to support Gohanism.

 

[Tapion]

Gohan being stronger than Goku in the Buu Saga using Super's logic is definitively a possibility. I'm with
Goku(Super)>=Gohan>=Goku(Buu Arc)>Gotenks.

And your first point is moot, Roshi sensed Gotenks in the manga.