Ultimate Goku (Evil Dragons) vs Surpassed Limits SSJ4 Goku

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what do you mean by ultimate goku .... end of GT goku ? If so I think by GT standards he shall defeat even ssj4 gogeta
 

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Both of them are practically the same kind of incarnation, though I'd imagine SS4 Goku going from getting his strongest attack tanked to tooling Yi Xing Long is enough to give him some edge in the beyond natural limits category.
 

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I Think that Ultimate Goku is a bit superior to Surpassed Limits Goku, so this is a Draw, i feel that the difference of them is Very Minimal
 

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I really don't know what to make of Ultimate Goku here. Am I giving him a boost comparable to Gohan's in Z?
 

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I'm going to have to go with Ultimate Goku. I like to think Old Kaioshin's ritual is the absolute pinnacle of power (at least, at the time) for anyone, or that it trumps any other kind of power up.
 

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