Vegeta @ 4th form Freeza

[Southern Gothic]

It's been a while. What's your best guess for battle power? I'm not looking for a perfect answer, just something to get an idea of where he is at. No matter how you slice it, he got a redunk-a-dunk hax as far as I can tell.

Thankee

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Vegeta >>> 3rd Form Freeza

Vegeta >/~ Freeza (Initial)

 

[Southern Gothic]

Vegeta >>> 3rd Form Freeza

Vegeta >/~ Freeza (Initial)

Right, lol. But he had to go from like 30,000 to a few million after just a few zenkai,. I was curious as to how people worked the numbers.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Vegeta >>> 3rd Form Freeza

Vegeta >/~ Freeza (Initial)

Right, lol. But he had to go from like 30,000 to a few million after just a few zenkai,. I was curious as to how people worked the numbers.

he can't get very high

goku went from 90,000 to becoming as high as initial freeza

 

[Southern Gothic]

Vegeta >>> 3rd Form Freeza

Vegeta >/~ Freeza (Initial)

Right, lol. But he had to go from like 30,000 to a few million after just a few zenkai,. I was curious as to how people worked the numbers.

he can't get very high

goku went from 90,000 to becoming as high as initial freeza

Kaioken tho

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Right, lol. But he had to go from like 30,000 to a few million after just a few zenkai,. I was curious as to how people worked the numbers.

he can't get very high

goku went from 90,000 to becoming as high as initial freeza

Kaioken tho

ye, but goku didn't use the kaio-ken until later l0l

he went from 90,000 to way above even 3rd form freeza from 1 zenkai, in his regular state

 

[Six Trails]

Goku post zenkai didn't even surpass first form Freeza, what are you talking about?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku post zenkai didn't even surpass first form Freeza, what are you talking about?

oh ye, i forgot

goku was using invisible kaio-ken :O :O :O

 

[Six Trails]

Exactly. There are apparently some people who still believe Goku's invisible Kaioken x10 was his full base power. It's a very popular misconception.

 

[Southern Gothic]

How? Doesn't Kaio strait up say Goku was using x10 the whole time

 

[Fantastische Hure]

How? Doesn't Kaio strait up say Goku was using x10 the whole time

 

[ahill1]

Freeza ( 3rd form ) : 2,250,000
Vegeta ( Zenkai ) : 4,000,000
Freeza ( Final Form Initial ) : 4,500,000
Goku base : 6,000,000
Freeza ( Increase of Speed ) : 6,500,000

Whatching closely seems that even Freeza ( Pre Speed up ) was a bit stronger than Vegeta. The latter is sweating like a bastard and it's in fear while Freeza fight Piccolo and the others. Note that Vegeta was not surprised when Frieza dodged his first attack ... it was like he already knew that something like this would happen. So Freeza increased his speed and power when kicking Vegeta's blast and is game over to the prince.

 

[SSJ2]

Unless Freeza made a very quick unnoticeable power up after firing the blast at Gohan and co, I don't think Vegeta ever surpassed his initial power. Sure he was confident in taking him on, but it never amounted to anything and he couldn't even land a blow.

 

[ahill1]

Unless Freeza made a very quick unnoticeable power up after firing the blast at Gohan and co, I don't think Vegeta ever surpassed his initial power. Sure he was confident in taking him on, but it never amounted to anything and he couldn't even land a blow.

Freeza increased his speed though.

 

[SSJ2]

True, forgot about that. Then perhaps he was ahead of initial Freeza by a small margin.

 

[p123]

As ahill mentioned, Vegeta is definitely inferior to Freeza's initial power. ( Before he increased his speed ). Vegeta is sweating like a maniac, clearly in fear and he manages to pull it all together and put his faith in being the legendary Super Saiyan prior to attacking Freeza.

Vegeta vs Freeza Round 2 should look exactly like Vegeta vs Freeza Round 1, except now, he doesn't have any help, hence the " Oh shit I fucked " face from Vegeta.

Freeza increases his speed a little and holy shit Vegeta went from not having much of a chance to completely shit fucked.

Good stuff ahill you are up on a lot of my theories man, good shit meng.


3rd Form Freeza 2,500,000
Vegeta 3,500,000
Freeza ( Initial ) 4,000,000
Freeza ( Actual ) 5,500,000

 

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3rd Form Freeza: 3.000.000
4th Form Freeza (initial): 4.000.000
Vegeta: 4.000.000
4th Form Freeza (speed up): 5.000.000

 

[p123]

Vegeta shouldn't be equal! Increased Freeza literally could not be found! Gaps are much different than that!

 

[Southern Gothic]

I got the impression Vegeta stood no chance even without the speed increase. It just became more obvious at that point. So I'd be in favor of Vegeta being below from the beginning.

 

[p123]

Exactly. Vegeta is literally shitting himself. As I mentioned before, having Vegeta at the same gap as he was against Freeza previously ( 1st Form Freeza ), is a perfect setting, except now, he doesn't have the help to rely on anymore and he's in for a long, hard ass fight he most likely won't win.

Considering the fact Freeza increased his speed, it's likely Vegeta is at least somewhat competitive.