Vegeta base ( Boo Saga ) Vs East Kaioshin
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that'd imply pui-pui > <del>1st-form</del> freeza thoPyrus said:
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but pui-pui is weaker than saiyan-saga vegeta :$ :$ :$Pyrus said:So? :sameoldFantastische Hure said:that'd imply pui-pui > <del>1st-form</del> freeza thoPyrus said:
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gravity sealed his fate :$ :$ :$Pyrus said:
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ok i was jst jk anyways 
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Wow so one more agree that Base Saiyans >> Kaioshin.... thanks DBZeta.Gravity is not as consistent in Buu Saga. If so, Vegeta (Trunks arc) > Trunks (Buu saga), since Kid Trunks couldn't take a 150 x gravity while Vegeta (trunks arc) could handle a 300x.
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Even so, there's nothing to suggest he's above a SSj1 level besides Kaioshin being afraid (he's afraid of everybody). Vegeta even made a comment about the x10 gravity, saying if it's higher than there could be a problem, but since it's only x10 Vegeta pounds the living cake out of Puppui.
https://www.youtube.com/v/nlRAdyFTz54
Babadi ask Dabura which place suits him best, which turns out to be his own planet which he finds the x10 gravity to be special.
Kaioshin: It look like he's trying to give that fighter (PuiPui) a advantage.
https://www.youtube.com/v/nlRAdyFTz54
Babadi ask Dabura which place suits him best, which turns out to be his own planet which he finds the x10 gravity to be special.
Kaioshin: It look like he's trying to give that fighter (PuiPui) a advantage.
Feats/statements on Supreme Kai's power :
* Supreme Kai can one-shot Frieza, which put him above SSJ Goku (Namek).
* He can apparently defeat Piccolo. Whether it's by sheer power or his powerful abilities is up to interpretation.
* He can paralyze SSJ2 Gohan. But considering that he had trouble to do so while he only needed to last long enough for Spopovitch and Yamu to absorb his power may make this feat less awesome than it was depicted. Not to mention that Gohan was off-guard, and that (as stated by Supreme Kai) he may not have been at full power.
* Able to push back Fat Boo. Though, when you know that he is toying with him, it kind of make this feat irrelevant. One should take into account that it's with the power that allowed him to destroy Dabura and Gohan, so it still count as a low SSJ-tier feat at least.
* He can't hope to defeat Dabura, putting him below SSJ-tier (or SSJ2-tier, depending on who you ask) in Boo Saga.
Now apparently Supreme Kai is afraid of Yakon. That's only true in Anime, and the only sequence that may suggest that is that he wanted to gang up on him :
* Well, in the same saga, Goku apparently thought that Vegeta wanted both Gohan and Gotenks to fight Kid Boo. If this argument didn't convinced most of Super Boo's supporters, why that would convince Supreme Kai's supporter ?
* If we are to take this argument seriously, Supreme Kai think that Gohan can't take on Yakon alone, which is laughable.
Well, Supreme Kai is weak compared to the Saiyans, but not that weak. At least, he can take care of Frieza, him.
* Supreme Kai can one-shot Frieza, which put him above SSJ Goku (Namek).
* He can apparently defeat Piccolo. Whether it's by sheer power or his powerful abilities is up to interpretation.
* He can paralyze SSJ2 Gohan. But considering that he had trouble to do so while he only needed to last long enough for Spopovitch and Yamu to absorb his power may make this feat less awesome than it was depicted. Not to mention that Gohan was off-guard, and that (as stated by Supreme Kai) he may not have been at full power.
* Able to push back Fat Boo. Though, when you know that he is toying with him, it kind of make this feat irrelevant. One should take into account that it's with the power that allowed him to destroy Dabura and Gohan, so it still count as a low SSJ-tier feat at least.
* He can't hope to defeat Dabura, putting him below SSJ-tier (or SSJ2-tier, depending on who you ask) in Boo Saga.
Now apparently Supreme Kai is afraid of Yakon. That's only true in Anime, and the only sequence that may suggest that is that he wanted to gang up on him :
* Well, in the same saga, Goku apparently thought that Vegeta wanted both Gohan and Gotenks to fight Kid Boo. If this argument didn't convinced most of Super Boo's supporters, why that would convince Supreme Kai's supporter ?
* If we are to take this argument seriously, Supreme Kai think that Gohan can't take on Yakon alone, which is laughable.
Well, Supreme Kai is weak compared to the Saiyans, but not that weak. At least, he can take care of Frieza, him.
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I'd have
Base Goku 1,200,000,000
Base Vegeta 960,000,000
Base Gohan 810,000,000
#17 800,000,000
Base Kid Trunks 750,000,000
Base Goten 720,000,000
#18 700,000,000
Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) 600,000,000
Pocus 600,000,000
East Kaioshin 500,000,000
Looks about right to me.
Base Goku 1,200,000,000
Base Vegeta 960,000,000
Base Gohan 810,000,000
#17 800,000,000
Base Kid Trunks 750,000,000
Base Goten 720,000,000
#18 700,000,000
Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) 600,000,000
Pocus 600,000,000
East Kaioshin 500,000,000
Looks about right to me.
