Vegeta (mecha freeza saga) vs Piccolo (mecha freeza saga)

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Who wins this fight? Did Piccolo catch up to Vegeta nearly 2 years after the battle on Namek?
 

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Considering Piccolo's demeanour towards him, coupled with the statement in the previous arc of Gohan saying Piccolo doesn't take on opponents 1 on 1 if he doesn't stand a chance, I'd say they're about equal, especially considering Big Green's tendency to make huge gains. It ultimately comes down to skill, in which case I'd believe Piccolo's vaster array of techniques would give him the win.
 

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Piccolo actually had the balls to challenge Vegeta, so they're about the same IMO. I think Piccolo wins after a extremely tough fight thanks to his Namekian abilities (Stretching limbs and regeneration).
 

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Vegeta wins with high difficulty.
 

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I think Vegeta would win as well. Piccolo can put up a resistance, but I don't think it'd be an extreme tough battle for Vegeta.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Considering Piccolo's demeanour towards him, coupled with the statement in the previous arc of Gohan saying Piccolo doesn't take on opponents 1 on 1 if he doesn't stand a chance, I'd say they're about equal, especially considering Big Green's tendency to make huge gains. It ultimately comes down to skill, in which case I'd believe Piccolo's vaster array of techniques would give him the win.

Didn't Piccolo challenge Raditz as well when knowing he was greatly outclassed though?
 

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Status quo remains the same. Vegeta is factually superior, but the gap is subjective. I tend to think it's small enough for Piccolo to run his mouth, but they're not equals.
 

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Piccolo wins imo.

ahill1 said:
Captain Cadaver said:
Considering Piccolo's demeanour towards him, coupled with the statement in the previous arc of Gohan saying Piccolo doesn't take on opponents 1 on 1 if he doesn't stand a chance, I'd say they're about equal, especially considering Big Green's tendency to make huge gains. It ultimately comes down to skill, in which case I'd believe Piccolo's vaster array of techniques would give him the win.

Didn't Piccolo challenge Raditz as well when knowing he was greatly outclassed though?

Not really challenge. Piccolo questioned Raditz's power. He tested Raditz's power by attacking him.
 

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He said something like "how dare you say that to the demon king, do you know who are you talking to?". I consider that as a challenge, tbh. He didn't keep his mouth shut, he is still a proud warrior. I don't think he is just gonna lie there and let Vegeta shit talk him. He didn't keep his cool like he did in the instances he was really superior, e.g when Vegeta provoked him when Piccolo had merged with Nail. The fact that he seemed visibly annoyed there can even be interpreted as his pride being hurt by being provoked by someone he knows is his superior imo.
 

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I don't think Piccolo would step up to Vegeta's provoking if he knew that he would actually get bodied against him. He saw for himself Vegeta's ability after his last zenkai on Namek, and yet was still fine with potentially tangoing with him. That's not to say that I think Piccolo would win, but he could put up a good fight. Vegeta wins with high difficulty.
 

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ahill1 said:
He said something like "how dare you say that to the demon king, do you know who are you talking to?". I consider that as a challenge, tbh. He didn't keep his mouth shut, he is still a proud warrior. I don't think he is just gonna lie there and let Vegeta shit talk him. He didn't keep his cool like he did in the instances he was really superior, e.g when Vegeta provoked him when Piccolo had merged with Nail. The fact that he seemed visibly annoyed there can even be interpreted as his pride being hurt by being provoked by someone he knows is his superior imo.

Sounds like disrespect tbh.
 

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I think Piccolo can actually take this given his confident enough about it and perhaps even stronger as well.
 

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They're equal in power imo. But I think Vegeta is the better fighter, so he wins.
 

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ahill1 said:
He said something like "how dare you say that to the demon king, do you know who are you talking to?". I consider that as a challenge, tbh. He didn't keep his mouth shut, he is still a proud warrior. I don't think he is just gonna lie there and let Vegeta shit talk him. He didn't keep his cool like he did in the instances he was really superior, e.g when Vegeta provoked him when Piccolo had merged with Nail. The fact that he seemed visibly annoyed there can even be interpreted as his pride being hurt by being provoked by someone he knows is his superior imo.

He actually said “What was that? You want to try me?”

When you think about it, Piccolo does challenges people who are way beyond his realm of power a lot. I mean, he wanted twice to go after Fat Boo, went to fight Tagoma just after Gohan said Tagoma was about as strong as him and was going to fight 1st form Freeza despite the fact it was obvious he was going to get stomped. Contrary to what Gohan said, Piccolo does challenge people who outstrip him a lot.

Ahill, what do you think about this statement? Do you think it implies Piccolo is close to Vegeta?
Goku: “Well at any rate, who was it who defeated Freeza? That was an incredible ki. Was it Piccolo? Or Vegeta?”
 

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All it means is Goku asked the two likeliest candidates.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
ahill1 said:
He said something like "how dare you say that to the demon king, do you know who are you talking to?". I consider that as a challenge, tbh. He didn't keep his mouth shut, he is still a proud warrior. I don't think he is just gonna lie there and let Vegeta shit talk him. He didn't keep his cool like he did in the instances he was really superior, e.g when Vegeta provoked him when Piccolo had merged with Nail. The fact that he seemed visibly annoyed there can even be interpreted as his pride being hurt by being provoked by someone he knows is his superior imo.

He actually said “What was that? You want to try me?”

When you think about it, Piccolo does challenges people who are way beyond his realm of power a lot. I mean, he wanted twice to go after Fat Boo, went to fight Tagoma just after Gohan said Tagoma was about as strong as him and was going to fight 1st form Freeza despite the fact it was obvious he was going to get stomped. Contrary to what Gohan said, Piccolo does challenge people who outstrip him a lot.

Ahill, what do you think about this statement? Do you think it implies Piccolo is close to Vegeta?
Goku: “Well at any rate, who was it who defeated Freeza? That was an incredible ki. Was it Piccolo? Or Vegeta?”
It may imply they are at least somewhat close, as it's doubtful Goku would bother mentioning Piccolo if he were that below Vegeta. If the gap remained the same, I think he'd have just mentioned Vegeta, considering how well behind Piccolo was back then. I am not sure though, but I think it implies Piccolo is at least of some relevance to Vegeta's power, with this latter being still the superior due to nothing definitive implying the status quo has changed, with the implications (I am not so sure how to interpret Piccolo challenging Vegeta tbh) at most pointing out at the gap shrinking down.

As for Piccolo's "How you dare say that to the Demon King" quote, I meant in the interaction with Raditz, not Vegeta.
 
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