Vegetto Red vs. Gogeta Blue

[Six Trails]

Super Saiyan God Vegetto​

vs.​

Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta​

Who wins?

 

[SSJ2]

I think Red Vegetto stomps. I don't see a huge difference in red and regular Blue, and I do see a massive difference between potara and fusion.

 

[Void]

Vegetto wins, but it's not a stomp.

 

[SSJ2]

So you think fusion multipliers change in super?

 

[Pyro]

Vegetto stomps.

SSJ Vegetto >>> Boohan >=< SSJ3 Gogeta in the Book of Z, the unofficial (so far...) successor to the Daizenshuu volumes that I'll be publishing in a few years. That's a big gap that carries over to Super.

 

[Six Trails]

Didn't SSB Goku put up a better fight against SS Kafla than SSG Goku did against Base Kafla?

 

[Pyro]

Yes, sir.

 

[Void]

Didn't SSB Goku put up a better fight against SS Kafla than SSG Goku did against Base Kafla?

Kind of. SS Kefla ended up taking out KKx20 Blue Goku soooooo...

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The strength of Potara seems to have been nerfed heavily in Super, so I'd say it could go either way. I'd still say Vegetto would have the edge though due to far superior stamina.

 

[SSJ2]

Didn't SSB Goku put up a better fight against SS Kafla than SSG Goku did against Base Kafla?

Kind of. SS Kefla ended up taking out KKx20 Blue Goku soooooo...

Do you think she was suppressed, or simply holding back? Dont remember this section very well. Wasnt SSJ Kefla = Genki Dama? Blue Galu was nowhere near that..

 

[Keedounan]

I would say that Gogeta wins.

 

[Spiral-Force]

SSJG Vegito. Doubt the blue boost is enough for Gogeta to transcend him, plus Vegito has the stamina advantage and a higher time limit.

 

[Pyro]

Didn't SSB Goku put up a better fight against SS Kafla than SSG Goku did against Base Kafla?

Kind of. SS Kefla ended up taking out KKx20 Blue Goku soooooo...

Do you think she was suppressed, or simply holding back? Dont remember this section very well. Wasnt SSJ Kefla = Genki Dama? Blue Galu was nowhere near that..

It's a retarded sequence because it doesn't do much to make you think she's a lot stronger than him, or that he's even using anything beyond normal Kaio-Ken. But she needs to be a lot stronger than him and he needs to be using Kaio-Ken x20 in order for Whis to not be a lying dunce. It doesn't help that she went around Goku and popped him from behind during the final spat rather than overpowering him directly, giving people fuel to claim Whis is wrong because she couldn't be that strong if she was being hurt by Goku's attacks. Plus, Goku being exhausted enough that Kaio-Ken wouldn't last long yet giving someone comparable to the Genki-Dama a decent enough fight just makes it so much worse, because then you have people claiming a fresh Goku would have won, implying fresh KKx20 Goku > the Genki-Dama he resorted to after KKx20 was completely ineffectual—or that he simply had gotten that strong fighting the U6 girls.

 

[Six Trails]

Ignore my deleted post.

Should've read your post more thoroughly.

 

[ahill1]

I think the gap between Vegetto and Gogeta is bigger than the God-Blue gap, specially that when considering the manga scale, the gap, while substantial, can't be many fold when SSJ is already not too far from 10% of SSJ Blue. I think a 1.5x gap between both states may suffice. Vegetto wins this handily imho.