Vista vs Doffy

[Epicnessbeyond]

Who do you thonk wins. Some forums think Vista is stronger and others think Dofft is above Jozu. What does this forum think

 

[Itachi]

Dofla is stronger

 

[Alex Boss]

Vista wins IMO. I really doubt dofla would do better than Vista against mihawk.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Dofla is stronger

Why and how?

 

[Itachi]

By hype. Not much to back it up either argument. If I had to bet though I'd put my money on Dofla. Vista was a deterrent for Mihawk not an equal.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Doffy wins with mid-diff at best imo. I don't see much to place Doffy massively below the Admirals, whereas Vista's main feat is holding back a Mihawk who seemed more focused on Luffy's odd charisma than the battle at hand. By comparison, Jozu also withstood a slash from Mihawk, yet was dismembered by Doflamingo's strings.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Doffy wins with mid-diff at best imo. I don't see much to place Doffy massively below the Admirals, whereas Vista's main feat is holding back a Mihawk who seemed more focused on Luffy's odd charisma than the battle at hand. By comparison, Jozu also withstood a slash from Mihawk, yet was dismembered by Doflamingo's strings.

Jozu was off guard when he was hit by parasite. Aokiji froze Doffy like he was nothing without even using a named attack or taking his hands out of his pockets. He also got destroyed by Gear 4 Luffy who is definetley not Admiral level yet. Jozu level at best

 

[Itachi]

^But he managed to unfreeze himself, something Jozu couldn't even do.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

^But he managed to unfreeze himself, something Jozu couldn't even do.

Jozu was off guard and Aokiji used a named attack had his hand out of his pockets and went for the kill. That's not the case during Doffy. He just effortlessly stopped him. Doffy may have broken out but I doubt Jozu or Vista would get frozen by something like that.

 

[Itachi]

Uhh Dofla was off guard too. Not much ground to stand on here buddy.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Uhh Dofla was off guard too. Not much ground to stand on here buddy.

Really? I really havr to reread parts of One Piece.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

He also got destroyed by Gear 4 Luffy who is definetley not Admiral level yet.

That part has yet to be proven. Thus far, there's little to say that the gap between Doflamingo and the Admirals is anything too large, only by enough that Doffy recognises them as stronger than himself.

 

[Itachi]

Also Luffy noted his advantage was because of the blow that Law dealt.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

He also got destroyed by Gear 4 Luffy who is definetley not Admiral level yet.

That part has yet to be proven. Thus far, there's little to say that the gap between Doflamingo and the Admirals is anything too large, only by enough that Doffy recognises them as stronger than himself.

Well I feel like Luffy will probably get another power up by the time he fights an admiral. G4 was inteoduced too early for it to be admiral level. Also even if Doffy was fresh G4 Luffy would still beat him with the lower end of mid diff at best

 

[Itachi]

Also even if Doffy was fresh G4 Luffy would still beat him with the lower end of mid diff at best

Evidence?

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Also even if Doffy was fresh G4 Luffy would still beat him with the lower end of mid diff at best

Evidence?

Luffy was weakened as well even though Doffy was much more severe but no way he was at something like half strength. G4 Luffy stomped a weakened Doffy extremely hard

 

[Itachi]

Uhh dude Luffy was weakened by Dofla. Dofla was weakened by Law. That's a false comparison.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Uhh dude Luffy was weakened by Dofla. Dofla was weakened by Law. That's a false comparison.

How does that go against what I said

 

[Itachi]

Because your argument is that a "fresh" Dofla would lose to Luffy too. And as evidence to that you say Luffy was weakened against Dofla.

You seriously don't see the flaw in your argument?

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Because your argument is that a "fresh" Dofla would lose to Luffy too. And as evidence to that you say Luffy was weakened against Dofla.

You seriously don't see the flaw in your argument?

So you think Fresh Doffy>G4 Luffy. :OP: :clap :what :elmo 2