Was Dragon Ball intended to end at the Freeza saga?

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No. There's nothing that actually confirms the fact, in fact it would have been insane to end Dragon Ball at the Freeza Saga considering how popular it was at the time... Also, it should have ended at the Freeza Saga considering that was thematically the best place to end the series.
 

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ahill1 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Herms' "intended ending" piece debunked this. It's just a popular myth.

Show me it, boyyyyy.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/freeza/

^That's only for the Freeza Saga, you can read-up on the other saga too if you want to.
 

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Thanks. But don't you think the Freeza saga gave a feeling of being the end of DB, specially with the final fight between Goku and Freeza?
 

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ahill1 said:
Thanks. But don't you think the Freeza saga gave a feeling of being the end of DB, specially with the final fight between Goku and Freeza?
Maybe. In the way everything seems to come full-circle and everything, but honestly that might just also have been a really lucky councidence that everything fit so well, but yeah everything from the start of the series all the way to that point seemed to connect and it seemed everything from the start of the series build-up to that moment. AT did say though he never really planned that much, so you could say a lot of it just fell into place really well or AT is a genius at spontaneous thinking.

I think Cell Saga felt even more like the end, especially with Gohan's character-arc seemingly peaking. He always had that great hidden power and in the end he surpassed his father and defended the earth of the greatest danger it ever faced.
 

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I also think Freeza is a nice come back to how Dragon Ball started, with Goku's origin as well as all of his race's enemy culminating into Freeza. Freeza, from my POV, is the more fitting enemy to be Goku's final one since, like I said, he is his race's enemy, as well as the direct responsible for his race and parents' downfall. Goku ending fullfilling not just Vegeta's but also his father's desire, as well as achieving the legendary SSJ (which had an incredible foreshdowing and is more fitting to be the ultimate peak of power than subsequent forms like grade 2 and 3, ssj2 and ssj3, that just made the legendary SSJ kind of underwhelming) is an even better fitting (and here I think many will disagree) than he passing to torch of protector of Earth to his son.

But here I am just seeing how I'd think Freeza being the final saga would be more fitting, whereas it really being what AT had planned has been disproved.
 

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ahill1 said:
I also think Freeza is a nice come back to how Dragon Ball started, with Goku's origin as well as all of his race's enemy culminating into Freeza. Freeza, from my POV, is the more fitting enemy to be Goku's final one since, like I said, he is his race's enemy, as well as the direct responsible for his race and parents' downfall. Goku ending fullfilling not just Vegeta's but also his father's desire, as well as achieving the legendary SSJ (which had an incredible foreshdowing and is more fitting to be the ultimate peak of power than subsequent forms like grade 2 and 3, ssj2 and ssj3, that just made the legendary SSJ kind of underwhelming) is an even better fitting (and here I think many will disagree) than he passing to torch of protector of Earth to his son.

But here I am just seeing how I'd think Freeza being the final saga would be more fitting, whereas it really being what AT had planned has been disproved.
Yeah, I got to say from a power-stand, that probably was the most fitting moment to end it. After all the foreshadowing and hype surround Super-Saiyan it delivered, but then the series continued and somehow a scientist could make robots higher than a Super-Saiyan.
 

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Could be, considering Muten Roshi broke the 4th wall at the 23rd TB by saying the story would go on for a little bit longer, meaning Toriyama probably planned to end it with either the Saiyan or Freeza Arcs. I'd argue that he probably intended it to end with the Saiyan Arc initially before he started introducing chekov's guns such as Namek or Kaio stating Vegeta wasn't the root of evil, since this arc had Goku and Piccolo's origins being revealed and their character development becoming whole, as well as Vegeta constantly stating he was the strongest in the universe making continuity messy.
 

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Should've ended it with Vegeta becoming a Super Saiyan while Goku was away and then the two of them fight one last time.



But, the Cell Arc was pretty awesome.
 

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Vegeta's plan to invade Namek was introduced before he or Nappa even fought Goku, so Toriyama likely envisioned a space saga long before the Saiyan arc ended, even if Freeza's army hadn't been fleshed out yet.
 
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