Were SSJ Goku and 100% Freeza at full power?

[GSM123]

If so, how? They were both pretty fucked up before transforming/powering up.

 

[VampireWicked]

If so, how? They were both pretty fucked up before transforming/powering up.

Adrenaline, Ki, anger, focus.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

The story treated it as such.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

There's no reason to assume they weren't. If Freeza can clearly deduce what percentage he's using at any time, he'd definitely be able to note if battle damage limited his power or stamina. As for Goku, he'd been described as nearly out of Ki by the time he launched the Genki-Dama, so a 50x boost wasn't going to change anything if he was so fatigued.

The obvious answer is the meta one of plot convenience to drag the fight on, and a major reason why I prefer the Saiyan Arc's finale where we could easily see the damage chipping away at each character's stamina. If trying to find an in-universe explanation as to their power and stamina being just fine, it could be assumed the S-Cells' stimulation upon first activating Super Saiyan offers some level of a rejuvination affect. As for Freeza, I guess you could assume the damage from the Genki-Dama was just superficial.

 

[SSJ2]

Yes. The story gives us no reason to believe otherwise. Both of their transformations mitigated all of the damage received prior. I would say that the damage Freeza sustained ended up hurting his stamina in the long run, but he stated himself to be 100% power. No reason to assume the character is lying.

 

[GSM123]

Maybe Freeza definitely should be at 100%, but what about Goku? His Ki was stated to be really low, and to keep on fighting in spite of injuries is the same thing as the injuries being magically healed.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yeah, Goku was stated to be almost out of Ki by Piccolo. That said, a 50x boost certainly wouldn't be able to overpower Freeza if a 20x boost was barely enough to fight on 50% Freeza's level and he became far more fatigued after that.

 

[SSJ2]

That would go against Goku's very reason for allowing Freeza to power up to 100%. Goku wanted to beat Freeza when both were at their best. He was excited to see Freeza's full power. If Goku was truly weakened by his past injuries, he wouldn't be so excited to test Freeza's true abilities. Goku demonstrated no fatigue after turning Super Saiyan. While I agree it doesn't make sense logically, that is what we are shown. His rage and adrenaline must have pushed his energy to its limit.

 

[GSM123]

Since this thread is about stamina and keeping full power, was SCP on his peak when fighting Gohan? He had just regenerated his entire body from a single cell. That oughta have cost some Ki.

 

[ahill1]

Yeah, I think they were at 100% of their capabilities. Suggesting otherwise goes against the lore imo. Goku seemed to have his energies replenished as he could fly just fine after de-transforming while earlier he needed Piccolo's help to even stand up. As for Freeza, one could make a little more of a case for him not being 100%, though that's unlikely with how much emphasis was put by Goku on how he was waiting for Freeza to achieve 100% so he would have no regrets as a warrior, with Goku even saying he wants to see Freeza at his "absolute best".

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Since this thread is about stamina and keeping full power, was SCP on his peak when fighting Gohan? He had just regenerated his entire body from a single cell. That oughta have cost some Ki.

Zenkais generally don't seem to come into effect until a Saiyan is fully healed (eg. Goku not being sure he could beat 3rd form Freeza when sensing him whilst healing), so I doubt it. Cell was also at a complete loss at the idea of losing at the end, something of which he'd blame on stamina loss if it was a factor. Everything within the plot seems to definitely point to the Zenkai overriding any potential stamina loss.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Wasn't that the theme of that fight like SSJ said? I don't see why they weren't at their full power but I can understand your question since Goku was exhausted as he'll and maybe even Freeza was well.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Oh yeah, of-course they weren't. Remember, this is the epic fight between the most powerful characters in the whole universe...except they aren't at full-power.