What power do Shisami and Tagoma have in the Movie and in the series before training?

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What power do Shisami and Tagoma have in the Movie and in the series before training?

I understood that Shisami has a power of 22,000 just like Dodoria, while Shisami has a power of 23,000 like Zarbon First Form, both in the Movie and in the Series.

It's true?
 

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Episode 20
Time: 4:30
Context: Sorbet introduces Tagoma to Freeza
Sorbet: “As for Tagoma, sir, he is an outstanding warrior, rivaling even the now late Zarbon-sama and Dodoria-sama.”

Episode 21
Time: 16:59
Context: Sorbet orders Shisami to kill everyone
Sorbet: “Shisami is the greatest warrior of the modern Freeza force!”

Quote one is pre training and quote 2 is after the Freeza force landed on earth. Sorbet was surprised that Tagoma had powered up beyond the Ginyu Force, so it didn't seem as though he was privy to the gains that Tagoma made. The quote about Shisami would imply that he was above Tagoma pre training.
 

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Episode 20
Time: 4:30
Context: Sorbet introduces Tagoma to Freeza
Sorbet: “As for Tagoma, sir, he is an outstanding warrior, rivaling even the now late Zarbon-sama and Dodoria-sama.”

Episode 21
Time: 16:59
Context: Sorbet orders Shisami to kill everyone
Sorbet: “Shisami is the greatest warrior of the modern Freeza force!”

Quote one is pre training and quote 2 is after the Freeza force landed on earth. Sorbet was surprised that Tagoma had powered up beyond the Ginyu Force, so it didn't seem as though he was privy to the gains that Tagoma made. The quote about Shisami would imply that he was above Tagoma pre training.
So Tagoma (Post Training)> Shisami (Post Training)> Tagoma (Pre Training)> Shisami (Pre Training)?
 

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No, I think Shisami > Tagoma pre training. Sorbet said he was the top warrior prior to knowing that the status quo changed.
 

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No, I think Shisami > Tagoma pre training. Sorbet said he was the top warrior prior to knowing that the status quo changed.
And the same for the movie? Shisami (Pre)> Tagoma in the Movie?

What gap do they have between Gohan SSJ2 over Tagoma in FNF Series?
 
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I'm not sure about the movie.

Gohan was only SSJ against Tagoma, no?
 

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Actually Gohan was only Base. I'm not sure what to give the SSJ multipliers in Super but Gohan would probably be at least 5-8x stronger with SSJ2. He was already on Shisami's level in Base.
 
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