Which gap is bigger?

[ahill1]

Cell [vs Goku] advantage over Goku MSSJ or Gohan's MSSJ advantage over Cell [vs Goku]?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I would say Cell VS Gohan, Cell consider Goku as a challenge while Gohan thought that they're too slow.

 

[SSJ2]

Cell vs Gohan is bigger.

 

[ahill1]

What are your numbers then? Show me your gaps.

 

[SSJ2]

Goku: 100
Cell: 115
Gohan: 135

 

[ahill1]

Rereading the scene it seems Gohan's advantage over Cell (vs Goku) was pretty big. Gohan was nonchalantly dodging him, look at how effortlessly he is doing it. A 75% gap might seem an exaggeration, but it doesn't seem too far fetched all things considered.

@Firestar - you go with Gohan (Boo saga) > Dabra = Cell [vs Goku], right? So you have Boo saga Gohan way too close to his Cell Games self, no?

 

[SSJ2]

75 is excessive.

Who said Dabra has to be exactly equal to Dabra?

 

[Papasmurf]

75 is excessive.

Who said Dabra has to be exactly equal to Dabra?

Because Dabra = Dabra

 

[SSJ2]

Future Metal Dabra though...

 

[ahill1]

75 is excessive.

I generally have Perfect Cell [vs Goku] at 83% of MSSJ Gohan, but considered how nonchalant and effortlessly Gohan was when dodging him, I don't think 75% is too far off from what's shown. Also, considering Dabra = Perfect Cell [vs Goku] and teen Gohan was labeled by Vegeta as far, far worse than kid Gohan, it makes sense.

Who said Dabra has to be exactly equal to Dabra?

You believed Goku compared Dabra to the Cell he fought. Considering Gohan was SSJ1 vs Dabra, that's the most logical option.

 

[SSJ2]

Key word is compared, why does that make them exact equals?

Could be:

Goku: 100
Cell: 115
Dabra: 110
Gohan Boo: 115
Kid Gohangs: 135

 

[ahill1]

Key word is compared, why does that make them exact equals?

Could be:

Goku: 100
Cell: 115
Dabra: 110
Gohan Boo: 115
Kid Gohangs: 135

Well I find hard to believe Dabra was weaker than the Cell Goku fought, even more when later Goku stated Dabra is way stronger than he thought (unless you go with Viz).

 

[SSJ2]

Was that not directed at his magical abilities?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Gohan also thought that Goku and Cell were just playing around.

 

[ahill1]

Was that not directed at his magical abilities?

Yeah, it most likely was, hence why some people prefer the way Viz worded it out.

 

[SSJ2]

OK so what;s the problem?

 

[ahill1]

Yeah Dabra doesn't have to be exactly equal to Perfect Cell [vs Goku].

 

[SSJ2]

I mean there's no problem with him being equal, but having it equal to an exact % seems unreasonable to Goku's sensing.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

He doesn't have to be as strong as Cell, he just need to be a bad news for Z fighters 7 years ago.

 

[Zippy]

Id say Mssj gohan and cell