Yamcha deserves more respect

[Fantastische Hure]

Yamcha was the first Z-Fighter to join the crew and rival-turned-friend in DragonBall.

Yamcha was so kewl in DragonBall, but DragonBall Z gave him nothing. To make matters worse TFS, that joke of a dub, turned Yamcha's whole character into a meme.

Yamcha has one of the kewlest voices in the original version (perhaps only behind Vegeta) and in the German dub he also had a kewl voice.

Yamcha wasn't treated like a joke in DragonBall. He was treated like a respectable Martial-Artist. He was the first one who gave Goku some trouble and seemed to fight-on somewhat equal levels. Yamcha saw through Invincible-Meng (no pun intended) and figured-away to get the advantage on him all on his own. Had a gr9 fight with Tenshinhan and more.

Yamcha was like Goku's big brother in DragonBall. He showed him the world in a way. He was always there for him. Knew about Martial-Arts like no-other as-well. He knew about Bacterian. Knew about Chapa-o. Knew about Grand-Pa Gohan. Knew about Muten-Roshi. He knew about all of them.

He came-up with the idea of cutting-off Goku's tail when he became an Oozaru.

The anime also had him fight courageously against Tambourine even with a broken leg.

And if I remember correctly he never in the original DragonBall ever hesitated to help his friends, even if it might not have been for the best for himself...unlike Kuririn who was fine with leaving Goku in the cave that was about to cave-in (no pun intended),

Also once again I think Yamcha was treated with much more respect than even Kuririn in DragonBall. Kuririn was more of the comic-relief, getting kicked in jokes than Yamcha. Remember the time Kuririn kept looking at Bulma's under-neath clothes and then she kept constantly kicking him? I sure do.

He was the only one who who had his own song in DragonBall.

Also please do remind me who was the only Z-Fighter besides Goku who was in the 10th anniversary DragonBall movie to celebrate 10 years of the DragonBall anime? It wasn't Kuririn. It wasn't Piccolo. It wasn't Gohan. It wasn't Trunks. And it sure wasn't Vegeta. No it was Yamcha. That's right the first person to become Goku's friend besides Bulma and Oolong.

Please respect.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yamcha was so kewl in DragonBall, but DragonBall Z gave him nothing. To make matters worse TFS, that joke of a dub, turned Yamcha's whole character into a meme.

It's not as if it was really unwarranted. Whilst his defeats were treat respectfully in DB (other than perhaps against Tenshithands and Shen), he still had the biggest win to loss ratio out of the main cast (unless counting Chaozu), which made the whole point of him being used as a measuring stick for the new threat pointless after the 21st TB.

Also once again I think Yamcha was treated with much more respect than even Kuririn in DragonBall. Kuririn was more of the comic-relief, getting kicked in jokes than Yamcha. Remember the time Kuririn kept looking at Bulma's unde-neath clothes and then she kept constantly kicking him? I sure do.

I'd say that's very debatable, considering Kuririn got far more victories and got complimented for his growth by Roshi against Piccolo, whereas Yamcha got far less for his loss against Shen and his only victory in the manga was against someone he needed Pu-Erh and Upa's help with.

Also, Kuririn didn't get his nuts hurt by a headbutt. 2

He was the only one who who had his own song in DragonBall.

Goku and Muten Roshi also got their own songs on the soundtrack, though those weren't used in the actual anime.

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It's worth noting at least that Yamcha was the smartest character during the 21st TB Arc, seeing as how he was the only one who pieced together the obviousness that Roshi = Jackie Chun. Shame he didn't display his intelligence at other points of the series to a major extent. He was also a major point of exposition which, whilst making him somewhat of just a plot device at times, still gave him some use. It would've been nice if Toriyama or Toei had explored his past or day to day life, given how well informed he was about such martial artists and techniques such as Gohan Sr. the Kamehameha, Bacterian, etc.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yamcha was so kewl in DragonBall, but DragonBall Z gave him nothing. To make matters worse TFS, that joke of a dub, turned Yamcha's whole character into a meme.

It's not as if it was really unwarranted. Whilst his defeats were treat respectfully in DB (other than perhaps against Tenshithands and Shen), he still had the biggest win to loss ratio out of the main cast (unless counting Chaozu), which made the whole point of him being used as a measuring stick for the new threat pointless after the 21st TB.

Also once again I think Yamcha was treated with much more respect than even Kuririn in DragonBall. Kuririn was more of the comic-relief, getting kicked in jokes than Yamcha. Remember the time Kuririn kept looking at Bulma's unde-neath clothes and then she kept constantly kicking him? I sure do.

I'd say that's very debatable, considering Kuririn got far more victories and got complimented for his growth by Roshi against Piccolo, whereas Yamcha got far less for his loss against Shen and his only victory in the manga was against someone he needed Pu-Erh and Upa's help with.

Also, Kuririn didn't get his nuts hurt by a headbutt. 2

He was the only one who who had his own song in DragonBall.

Goku and Muten Roshi also got their own songs on the soundtrack, though those weren't used in the actual anime.

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It's worth noting at least that Yamcha was the smartest character during the 21st TB Arc, seeing as how he was the only one who pieced together the obviousness that Roshi = Jackie Chun. Shame he didn't display his intelligence at other points of the series to a major extent. He was also a major point of exposition which, whilst making him somewhat of just a plot device at times, still gave him some use. It would've been nice if Toriyama or Toei had explored his past or day to day life, given how well informed he was about such martial artists and techniques such as Gohan Sr. the Kamehameha, Bacterian, etc.

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I would actually argue that the 23rd Tournament was really the turning-point, but doesn't really matter since Yamcha besides getting headbutted you-know-where was still respected by Kami. On-top of that the only gai to show-off a new technique that he himself developed at the tournament. Showing even more Ki-Control than the Kamehameha, arguably and it got even Kami angry. And Yamcha wanted to jump-in to help Tenshinhan against Tao-Pai-Pai when he started fighting dirty. A friend.

Needing help against Invicible-Meng (and wasn't that Master-Roshi with his nose-bleed?) is some-what twisting the narrative in my opinion, considering the reason he needed the help in the first place was because Uranai Baba was disrupting his strategy by her singing, other-wise he very cleverly figured-out how to know where his opponent was even if he couldn't see him.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Needing help against Invicible-Meng (and wasn't that Master-Roshi with his nose-bleed?) is some-what twisting the narrative in my opinion, considering the reason he needed the help in the first place was because Uranai Baba was distrusting his strategy by her singing, other-wise he very cleverly figured-out how to know where his opponent was even if he couldn't see him.

Kuririn came up with the idea to use Roshi though.

Whilst that's true, it still makes it feel slightly less than all Kuririn's victories being through his own strength or strategies.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I blame Vegeta, TFS and a Saibaman for that.

 

[Void]

It wasn't really that awful for Yamcha until the Android arc. After he got violated by Gero he said he wouldn't fight anymore. 2

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[Pocket-Gog~]

The fandom doesn't respect a whole lot of characters. I chalk it up to them not reading anything before Saiyan Arc.

 

[theallpowerfulpuipui]

The fandom doesn't respect a whole lot of characters. I chalk it up to them not reading anything before Saiyan Arc.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Needing help against Invicible-Meng (and wasn't that Master-Roshi with his nose-bleed?) is some-what twisting the narrative in my opinion, considering the reason he needed the help in the first place was because Uranai Baba was distrusting his strategy by her singing, other-wise he very cleverly figured-out how to know where his opponent was even if he couldn't see him.

Kuririn came up with the idea to use Roshi though.

Whilst that's true, it still makes it feel slightly less than all Kuririn's victories being through his own strength or strategies.

Didn't Kuririn also in the same saga lose to Dracula-Meng? He had a seemingly high advantage power-wise, but still lost by having blood sucked-out of his head to the point blood was leaking-out and he started to faint. He had to wear a bandage on his head for the rest of the Saga.

Also another thing that I forgot to mention is that Yamcha was really good in the sense that he forgave Tenshinhan when Tenshinhan reformed after he broke his leg. He was like it's all OK, but next time I'll defeat you and win the tournament or something like that. Very kewl of him.

And Yamcha was there when Goku re-united with his Grand-Pa. The only time we ever saw Goku cry. Kuririn was there too, but he didn't say anything. Yamcha was like, he might be strong but he's still just a child. So I remember him in the re-union more. You could see how happy everyone was for Goku.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Didn't Kuririn also in the same saga lose to Dracula-Meng? He had a seemingly high advantage power-wise, but still lost by having blood sucked-out of his head to the point blood was leaking-out and he started to faint. He had to wear a bandage on his head for the rest of the Saga.

He did, though that was a way to bring humility back to him after getting to the semi-finals in the Budokai made him overconfident. Yamcha would've been in a similar situation had their roles been reversed, especially considering where his confidence against the Saibaiman got him years later.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

The fandom doesn't respect a whole lot of characters. I chalk it up to them not reading anything before Saiyan Arc.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Didn't Kuririn also in the same saga lose to Dracula-Meng? He had a seemingly high advantage power-wise, but still lost by having blood sucked-out of his head to the point blood was leaking-out and he started to faint. He had to wear a bandage on his head for the rest of the Saga.

He did, though that was a way to bring humility back to him after getting to the semi-finals in the Budokai made him overconfident. Yamcha would've been in a similar situation had their roles been reversed, especially considering where his confidence against the Saibaiman got him years later.

And Kuririn's head was used as a substitute for the moon.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Kuririn had a crush on Upa.

 

[Papasmurf]

 

[Captain Cadaver]

 

[Fantastische Hure]

That's why Yamchad is Chadhan's role-model. Plz look at all the same-looking hair in the series.