Young Slug vs Android 19

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Some ppl put Young Slug over Freeza, so I wanted to see the general consensus ;)
 

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Southern Gothic said:
Some ppl put Young Slug over Freeza, so I wanted to see the general consensus ;)
Over <div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">1st Form</div>Freeza

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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

ppl plz dun h8 me!!!
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Southern Gothic said:
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

ppl plz dun h8 me!!!
i dun h8 u :nice :nice :nice
Wait a sec tho. Just help me out, because it has been a while since I've seen M4. Of course, I've seen #19 so many times it's burned into my memory. That is of course the time Goku got his ass kicked and Vegeta came down to be the boss. It also started the beginning of a seriously overused trend in the movies, where he would get that badass intro and them proceed to get smacked faster and faster each time. But I digress...

Goku is able to use both False SSJ and a massive Kaioken, yet is still unable to put Slug out for the count. That really should make it no question he's over 1st form Freeza. Am I right about this? At the least we should be talking about the higher up transformations.

That may put Slug at a disadvantage still. But I really never thought 19 was all that special. Given that, and I also don't know how well he can fight when not taking orders. Not so much arguing Slug to be a strong contender here, but gee wiz I thought maybe he would be trotting around King Cold territory at the very least, if hax played out in his favor.

As I said before, it's been a few years, and I may have forgotten a lot about that movie.
 

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Southern Gothic said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Southern Gothic said:
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

ppl plz dun h8 me!!!
i dun h8 u :nice :nice :nice
Wait a sec tho. Just help me out, because it has been a while since I've seen M4. Of course, I've seen #19 so many times it's burned into my memory. That is of course the time Goku got his ass kicked and Vegeta came down to be the boss. It also started the beginning of a seriously overused trend in the movies, where he would get that badass intro and them proceed to get smacked faster and faster each time. But I digress...

Goku is able to use both False SSJ and a massive Kaioken, yet is still unable to put Slug out for the count. That really should make it no question he's over 1st form Freeza. Am I right about this? At the least we should be talking about the higher up transformations.

That may put Slug at a disadvantage still. But I really never thought 19 was all that special. Given that, and I also don't know how well he can fight when not taking orders. Not so much arguing Slug to be a strong contender here, but gee wiz I thought maybe he would be trotting around King Cold territory at the very least, if hax played out in his favor.

As I said before, it's been a few years, and I may have forgotten a lot about that movie.
Yeah, Lord Slug being above 1st Form Freeza was just kind-of a light comment from me, I think.

He can be even above 3rd Form Freeza, and it can be supported.

Kaio-Sama says Giant Lord Slug might be stronger than Freeza and even a Super-Saiyan.

so ye.

Lord Slug is probably higher than Super-Saiyan Goku from Movie 4.

Also yeah Android #19's (before absorption) power is ambiguous. I think he could at-least be above 50% Freeza. Who probably could 1-shot Lord Slug, l0l.
 

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19 takes out a can salt and burns Slug to the ground.

Old Slug = Captain Ginyu
Young Slug = 2nd Form Frieza
Giant Slug < 60% Final Form Frieza
 

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Shit, I have Pre-No.19 above Yardrat SSJ Goku.

Do you have Slug above Yardrat SSJ Goku?
 

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He had to use the 100 fold Kaio-Ken, but he completely trashed Slug. Why didn't he use a lower amount? Perhaps he could only manage one attack within the time limit for anything above 50 fold.

I believe that Slug is stronger than Freeza/SSJ Goku, but he's probably closer to Mecha Freeza than anything.

The most recent anime episode had Freeza transforming to his third form, thus we also have post-merge Piccolo, and 200K Gohan/75K Krillin by the official numbers. Given that he's the strongest in M4, Goku had some kind of powerup, probably the 3 mil Zenkai. Given that the most recent manga chapter was Goku about to kill Freeza with the Genki-Dama, we can just assume that that's what happened in the M4 timeline, along with Vegeta never being wished back.
 

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That's a good reasoning. Slug would be very powerful. He'd still gets stomped by Android 19, though.
 

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Lol no

M4 is Ginyu Arc and Slug at his best is stronger than 3rd form Freeza
 
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