Genkidama Level

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Goku SSJB = 1

Goku SSJB Kaioken x20 = 20

Genkidama = Kefla SSJ = 40

Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 (Genkidama) = 50

Jiren (Start) = 55

Infinity Zamasu = 57.6

Goku SSJB Kaioken x20 (Genkidama) = 60

Jiren (Power Up 1) = 72

What do you think?
 

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Those numbers sound alright I guess. Can you add Merged Zamasu's 3 levels for reference as well
 

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But Mutated Zamasu = SSJB Vegetto. Giant Zamasu was losing because of speed.
Giant Zamasu and Vegetto were clashing evenly in physical strength during Gowasu's monologue. Vegetto was just fucking around with small Mutated Zamasu.
 

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That’s definitely nerfing it. I have him between the Genki-Dama and Initial Jiren, and even that feels rather tight. What even is Vegetto’s SSJB multiplier? 1.5x base?

This is what I have:

SSJB Goku/Vegeta: 1.5

Vegetto Blue: 60 ([A+B]x20, just like in the Boo Saga)
~ SSJB: 3,750

Merged Zamasu: 3,600
~ Giant: 4,500
KKx20 SSJB Goku: 30
Genki-Dama: 300?

Jiren/UI Sign Goku: 5,000 or 6,000

Giant Zamasu and Vegetto were clashing evenly in physical strength during Gowasu's monologue. Vegetto was just fucking around with small Mutated Zamasu.

What about when Zamasu emerged unscathed from the Final Kamehameha?

Goku and Vegeta were out for blood and so should be Vegetto. It doesn’t look like he’s holding back at all.
 

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That’s definitely nerfing it. I have him between the Genki-Dama and Initial Jiren, and even that feels rather tight. What even is Vegetto’s SSJB multiplier? 1.5x base?

This is what I have:

SSJB Goku/Vegeta: 1.5

Vegetto Blue: 60 ([A+B]x20, just like in the Boo Saga)
~ SSJB: 3,750

Merged Zamasu: 3,600
~ Giant: 4,500
KKx20 SSJB Goku: 30
Genki-Dama: 300?

Jiren/UI Sign Goku: 5,000 or 6,000



What about when Zamasu emerged unscathed from the Final Kamehameha?

Goku and Vegeta were out for blood and so should be Vegetto. It doesn’t look like he’s holding back at all.
Why do you have Vegetto SSJB >>>>>> Jedi Future Trunks (Genkidama)?

Do you have Gigant Zamasu weakening that massively?
 

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Why do you have Vegetto SSJB >>>>>> Jedi Future Trunks (Genkidama)?

Do you have Gigant Zamasu weakening that massively?

Yes. Kaioshin and Gowasu commented on how Zamasu’s regeneration wasn’t working anymore and he was falling apart.

It also makes a lot narrative more sense for Vegetto to actually affect the plot instead of just being there for fanservice.
 

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Zamasu's regeneration not working properly isn't power related, it just means he wasn't fully immortal and can be destroyed by someone sufficiently powerful enough. Vegetto stated that Zamasu was tapping into his anger and hatred of mortals to power himself up at the cost of speed, so if anything Zamasu would be getting stronger not weaker, especially when. FKHH from Blue Vegetto does nothing but Trunks Genkidama sword can get the job done to the exact same Zamasu.

Zamasu doesn't get any stronger in his infinite form. It is just the hax of him having an intangible body and becoming one with the universe that makes him so dangerous.


SSJ2 Kefla > UI Goku (Second Time) >> Initial Jiren = Initial UI Goku >>>> U7 Genkidama = SSJ Kefla (FP) >> KKx20 SSJB Goku (Mid-ToP) >> Genkidama Sword Trunks > Merged Zamasu (Hatred Corrupted Final Power Up) > SSJB Vegetto > Merged Zamasu (Hatred Corrupted 2nd Power Up) > Merged Zamasu (Hatred Corrupted 1st Power Up) > KKx10 SSJB Goku (FT arc) > Merged Zamasu (Halo) >= SSJB Goku (Limit-Breaking KHH)
 

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