SSJ Vegeta, SSJ Trunks, Piccolo, Frieza, Tenshinhan & Krillin vs 17 & 18

[AngelBorninHell]

How'd you imagine this choreography? I know Z Fighters still lose.

 

[SSJ2]

If they had Goku it might be slightly interesting. 17 is so far beyond SSJ Vegeta that he can pretty well one shot everyone here. Vegeta and Trunks might be able to give 18 some trouble if they are both full power, but there's no way the rest of the group can stall 17 to let that happen. They get wiped pretty fast.

 

[Power Level Guy]

This statement from 17 is essentially retconned due to later developments. 18 tanks Trunks and can one shot him. They are not close in power at all.

18 held back on Vegeta, if she gave her full effort, he'd be done in seconds.

 

[TheVocalsmith]

Frieza blows up Krillin

Tien also gets killed by Frieza

18 kills everyone else while 17 observes the trees

 

[AngelBorninHell]

This statement from 17 is essentially retconned due to later developments. 18 tanks Trunks and can one shot him. They are not close in power at all.

Was never reliable since 17 didn't know how strong anyone more than Vegeta was.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

When 17 had Tenshinhan on his lock, he was very vulnerable, Frieza's specialist on sneak-attacking, I'd think Frieza would be useful even though they would be defeated still. It won't be like when Vegeta or Piccolo went on rescue.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Can you use an example of what you are talking about. Has it ever happened in the story before, anything in the realm of what you are saying.

 

[GSM123]

Freeza is a bit of a wild card, but it would go down like the canon version. Vegeta would insist on fighting alone, and when he loses Trunks jumps in with Piccolo and Tien in tow.

I can imagine Freeza aiming for a death beam while 17 takes his time choking Tien, but 18 would probably shoot him down.

 

[TheVocalsmith]

I doubt 18 would need to fight

either it happens like it does in the canon (Though everyone dies)

Or 17 kills them all after Frieza pisses him off

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Can you use an example of what you are talking about. Has it ever happened in the story before, anything in the realm of what you are saying.

When 17 got Tenshinhan on hold, Vegeta tried helping him and 18 took his foot impeding him which shows he was vulnerable on that time.

Sometimes characters throwing attacks from behind have worked but mainly seems being outliers like Gohan, Piccolo and Krillin distracting Frieza on Genkidama situation, Android 16 holding Cell from behind or Base Vegeta blasting Cell. Based on that, 17's abundantly vulnerable.

I can imagine Freeza aiming for a death beam while 17 takes his time choking Tien, but 18 would probably shoot him down.

18 just stopped Vegeta because she saw him, Frieza's opportunist enough he could come w/telekinesis or something like that out of her sight.

 

[GSM123]

18 just stopped Vegeta because she saw him, Frieza's opportunist enough he could come w/telekinesis or something like that out of her sight.

Does Freeza’s telekinesis work on people stronger than him? We never saw that.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Does Freeza’s telekinesis work on people stronger than him? We never saw that.

On Super, he paralyzed GoD Toppo, but that's nasty since he was on his base form.