How strong would Androids Saga SSJ Gogeta be?

[AngelBorninHell]

Would Gogeta be 50x+ weaker than Gotenks based on the difference between boys and adults from that time and Android 18 fight with Vegeta/Kid Trunks?

If so, I imagine him being Grade 2 tier.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Would Gogeta be 50x+ weaker than Gotenks based on the difference between boys and adults from that time and Android 18 fight with Vegeta/Kid Trunks?

If so, I imagine him being Grade 2 tier.

He’d be piss weak during the period.

I’d say he probably still gets to like CG Goku level or something

 

[Papasmurf]

He'd be trash. The fusion multiplier seems to go up if you're stronger based on base post > SSJ pre, and this guy's components would get stomped by #18. Dabura would eat him for breakfast. I think even warming up Perfect Cell might, honestly.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

He’d be piss weak during the period.

I’d say he probably still gets to like CG Goku level or something

CG Goku seems too much, d'you think SSJ Gotenks realistically is 50x+ stronger than CG 100% SSJ Goku?

 

[The Supreme Being]

CG Goku seems too much, d'you think SSJ Gotenks realistically is 50x+ stronger than CG 100% SSJ Goku?

Do you think Base Gotenks is weaker than CG Goku?

 

[Power Level Guy]

CG Goku seems too much, d'you think SSJ Gotenks realistically is 50x+ stronger than CG 100% SSJ Goku?

Yea isn’t that what the evidence shows?

CG Goku is 50x Android 18 at least

 

[Power Level Guy]

Do you think Base Gotenks is weaker than CG Goku?

He has to be

 

[Power Level Guy]

He'd be trash. The fusion multiplier seems to go up if you're stronger based on base post > SSJ pre, and this guy's components would get stomped by #18. Dabura would eat him for breakfast. I think even warming up Perfect Cell might, honestly.

Base Gogeta > SSJ Goku/Vegeta would have him lined up for CG level.

 

[Papasmurf]

Base Gogeta > SSJ Goku/Vegeta would have him lined up for CG level.

I think the fusion multiplier would be lower at their pathetic pre-Rosat levels given that Gotenks' multiplier increased during the RoSaT. If the kids had gotten over 50x stronger in the RoSaT individually they'd both be stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Gotenks would be stronger than Vegetto lol.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I think the fusion multiplier would be lower at their pathetic pre-Rosat levels given that Gotenks' multiplier increased during the RoSaT. If the kids had gotten over 50x stronger in the RoSaT individually they'd both be stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Gotenks would be stronger than Vegetto lol.

There’s gotta be limits to how low it can go. It can take pathetically weak people and make them very strong

The boys multiplier is above 50x.

But yeah at works they gotta be what 20x or something for Adult Androids..

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah there's a limit to how low it can go, I still don't think they're getting 100x stronger from fusing at this stage in the game. They'd beat Semi Cell and Super Vegeta for sure, but I'm not sure about CG tiers.

 

[The Supreme Being]

He has to be

There's no way Gotenks is that weak, he has to be above the SSJ kids even before the RoSaT.

 

[Power Level Guy]

There's no way Gotenks is that weak, he has to be above the SSJ kids even before the RoSaT.

Ssj Goku > Base Gotenks > Ssj Kids

Super Saiyan is a 50x boost. SSJ2 and SSJ3 are not a combined 50x boost.

Oh my bad, I’m referring to Buu Saga SSJ Goku.

But yeah, that’s how you prove…

SSJ Goku > Base Gotenks

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Yea isn’t that what the evidence shows?

CG Goku is 50x Android 18 at least

I can make gaps from Android 17 vs Kamiccolo to CG SSJ Goku less than 50x based on feats.

I also highly doubt 18 = Base Gogeta could be the case, but Gogeta scales much higher than her, considering Super Saiyan Gotenks is stronger than Super Saiyan Goku and based on Piccolo's comment Base Gotenks upscale SSJ Goten & Kid Trunks we can't do much about it but argue for inferior multipliers, this is me being Gotenks anti-bloater too.

EDIT: I'd retract myself from the second one.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Do you think Base Gotenks is weaker than CG Goku?

I follow the route of inferior multipliers for SSJ in fusions.

Base Gotenks > SSJ Kid Trunks/Goten > CG SSJ Goku.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I can make gaps from Android 17 vs Kamiccolo to CG SSJ Goku less than 50x based on feats.

That would be inaccurate.

CG Goku > SSJ Boys > Base Kids ~ Android 18

CG Goku is confirmed over 50x stronger than Android 18.

Base Gotenks > SSJ Kid Trunks/Goten > CG SSJ Goku.

The SSJ Kids are nowhere close to CG Goku though. That’s confirmed.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

That would be inaccurate.

CG Goku > SSJ Boys > Base Kids ~ Android 18

CG Goku is confirmed over 50x stronger than Android 18.

If you have evidence, bring it.

The SSJ Kids are nowhere close to CG Goku though. That’s confirmed.

Gohan sweating vs Goten and make him fly implies otherwise.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Gohan sweating vs Goten and make him fly implies otherwise.

It’s just training. Don’t over account for it, the purpose of it is to show the kids are strong strong.

 

[GSM123]

CG Goku or Vegeta level sounds good.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

It’s just training. Don’t over account for it, the purpose of it is to show the kids are strong strong.

But we've seen how you can easily dominate someone who's not on your level by training.

CG Vegeta or Trunks pressuring CG Goku and making him sweat on a sparring doesn't seem reasonable.

Even the Anime which makes Goten and Trunks far weaker doesn't have them that distant to Gohan. They should reasonably be 80% even on that continuity.