Alex Pereira and JJ — two GOATs

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Who's more of a GOAT?


 
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Go train bruh. Go work your low single.

Lol i only clicked play cuz i saw your photo. That song tho. Sounds like christmas.
Is that necklace a moth you killed with a broom?
 

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Go train bruh. Go work your low single.

Lol i only clicked play cuz i saw your photo. That song tho. Sounds like christmas.
Is that necklace a moth you killed with a broom?
Just letting you know he's the second GOAT after JJ...


His hardest opponent is Ankalaev. Which he btw had a close UD loss while fighting with Norovirus. At 100%, it's likely he wins by a still hard, but reversing the roles and pulling a 49-46 or late round 5 TKO.

Mythical lines from many odds that compare styles and match ups compared Pereira with many fighters. DDP was on that list. Chimaev was on that list. Tom Aspinall was on that list. They went all the way down from Anthony Smith to Tom Aspinall and no one realistically could defeat Alex Pereira other than... Ankalaev. But since the Khalil Rountree fight, the odds became near even as -115 pick them. And it's still near even despite the first fight due to the injury and sick Pereira. In some books, those that are just odds experts with no market and fans money, Pereira is a slight -120 favourite...

Currently, Alex Pereira is the #1 in terms of "can beat any fighter" and Ankalaev is #2. They're like Islam Makhachev and Illia Topuria if Topuria and Islam were big LHWs... Sadly though, Ankalaev isn't a drawn like Islam is, despite being as skilled — if not more so — than Islam Makhachev. Ankalaev is master in sambo, as he trains sambo since childhood and took part in several world championships, receiving the master sambo degree in the Makachala, the part and gym of Dagestan he trains in... But he is also one of the best strikers in the UFC. He's a better striker than Islam Makhachev. Skills equally, but Ankalaev has a real one shot KO power that is second in the LHW, below only Pereira. Rountree is third. Ankalaev's power punching is above any heavyweight, as is Alex Pereira's — both register as above Ngannou and Aspinall when having their punching effect evaluated.

Since both weigh naturally (they best fit, no weight cut) 110kg, they an make HW weight easily and dominate there even vs Tom Aspinall, who's currently the best HW with Jones retiring. Alex Pereira vs Tom Aspinall is projected as an Alex Pereira vs Jiri Prochazka or Khalil Rountree — moderate problems for Alex but a decisive win by TKO, being unlikely to go to the scorecards... Ankalaev is also expected to beat Tom, but in a different way, more like a 49-46 UD...

LHWs, specially big ones who are elite LHWs, are fighters who can beat anyone since LHW is the primer league in UFC — the best blend between talent / skills and size. So whoever is elite at LHW and has a HW frame when not cutting weight, is expected to do even better at HW. In Pereira's case, Tom wouldn't be harder than Ankalaev was at least, even if he fights with Norovirus... They both know that they're the only fighters who can beat anyone else...
 

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Bruh

Go practice your sankaku-jime or mount escapes or something
 

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What now? Alex Pereira TKO'd Magomed Ankalaev in two minutes of the first round. A right overhand. Ankalaev went for the takedown. Alex sprawled and finished him with brutal ground and pound. 2 minutes in, TKO. He's a monster. I told ya
 

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Just letting you know he's the second GOAT after JJ...
Hard pass on this.

I don't think he gets by Jones, DC, or Gus.

I think he's probably around Rumble level, which is amazing no doubt, but I don't know if he consistently beats Rumble.

He came up in a weak point in LHW history, I mean, this is the same guy who struggled with Jan.
 

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Hard pass on this.

I don't think he gets by Jones, DC, or Gus.

I think he's probably around Rumble level, which is amazing no doubt, but I don't know if he consistently beats Rumble.

He came up in a weak point in LHW history, I mean, this is the same guy who struggled with Jan.
But Jan beat Reyes, who gave a tough match for JJ. Ankalaev beat Santos, who gave a tough fight for JJ and Ankalaev dominated Santos. Don't forget Gus is same age as JJ and lost to Anthony Smith too when Gus was still 33 yo... Ankalaev was 22-0. Khabibi before this fight said "Ankalaev is a rare talent... He's likely one of the best Russian fighters ever and one of the best MMA fighters of all time". For Khabibi to say that to Magomed Ankalaev, it means a lot.
 

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I think out of those fights he has the best chance against DC, but only due to reach advantage.
Once DC starts closing the distance the boy is getting slammed imo.
Ankalaev didn't take him down once. DC also stated he wouldn't defeat Pereira if he were active, saying MMA evolved and that the new era is always better, plus he said "If Ankalaev couldn't take him down when he was very sick in the first time and was KO'd in one round in their second fight, I'm being serious, I wouldn't beat him either. At our time, we weren't even conditioned for calf kicks"

DC admitted Pereira would have beaten him. Ngannou also stated that " Alex can become the HW champion if he moves up. He's the only one I put as better than prime Stipe. He is better than Daniel Cormier and DC got the belt there"...

Two professionals, one of them being DC himself, saying Alex would beat prime DC. Anyways, they're friends haha. They like each other.

 

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Maybe you are right or maybe it’s just hype if he beats Jon Jones at the White House then I’ll be a believer
 

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Maybe you are right or maybe it’s just hype if he beats Jon Jones at the White House then I’ll be a believer
He called JJ. He said "I think it will be good for both of us. He said he wanted to fight me. And if I beat him, he will still be the GOAT. I personally think he's the GOAT, so if he loses, nothing will change, I know he's the best of all times. I'm personally saying it, I won't be the goat if I beat him, that's already his title for all that he has done. I spoke to Dana and that's the fight I want. I called Aspinall, but he didn't seem interested, he rejected it more than once, so I want to fight the best who also wants to fight me. If Aspinall wanted, we could have already fought. Maybe there's a reason he isn't accepting or calling me out. You have to ask him. But whatever it is, I already accepted to fight him long ago and you will have to ask him why he doesn't talk about fighting me anymore".
 

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He called JJ. He said "I think it will be good for both of us. He said he wanted to fight me. And if I beat him, he will still be the GOAT. I personally think he's the GOAT, so if he loses, nothing will change, I know he's the best of all times. I'm personally saying it, I won't be the goat if I beat him, that's already his title for all that he has done. I spoke to Dana and that's the fight I want. I called Aspinall, but he didn't seem interested, he rejected it more than once, so I want to fight the best who also wants to fight me. If Aspinall wanted, we could have already fought. Maybe there's a reason he isn't accepting or calling me out. You have to ask him. But whatever it is, I already accepted to fight him long ago and you will have to ask him why he doesn't talk about fighting me anymore".
Aspinall rejecting Alex? Hmm, I don't know about that. But Alex doesn't seem the type to lie either.

Either way, more Alex the better. When the UFC switches over to Paramount and bring their backlog I will rewatch all of his fights for sure.
 

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Aspinall rejecting Alex? Hmm, I don't know about that. But Alex doesn't seem the type to lie either.

Either way, more Alex the better. When the UFC switches over to Paramount and bring their backlog I will rewatch all of his fights for sure.
He's a monster. Tom said that Alex is one of the most dangerous fighters to ever compete in the UFC (his interview with Logan Paul, when Tom was asked which fighter would be more of a nightmare for him, Pereira or JJ"" . He said that it'd be equally, that he couldn't choose, saying he would see both as nightmares he'd rather not face if it weren't for a belt.

The Ngannou part, search for "Ngannou talks about Alex chances at HW". They'll likely show Alex vs Tom firstly before making Alex vs JJ, otherwise it'd wouldn't be for the HW undisputed belt, which Alex said "I'd like JJ at the White House, undisputed HW belt. He also wants it and it is good for everyone. And he's the GOAT already. If he loses to me, he'll be the GOAT anyways. I'm personally saying, no matter the outcome, doesn't matter if I win, he will be still the GOAT".
 

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That’s exactly what I want you to do. Quote your source with a direct link to the interview.

Pereira is the best in the world. He's known as the current boogeyman. Rampage Jackson said Pereira feels exactly like when JJ showed how young, and wiped everybody.
 

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I wish him and JJ don't fight. Moreso because I want JJ to retire unbeaten. And I think Alex Pereira is the only fighter who could beat JJ and more likely would (like, ~55% Alex vs 45% JJ). I don't think any other fighter would be favoured but I think vs Pereira, JJ would get his first loss more often than not...hence why I want Alex vs Tom shown only and let JJ off.
 
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That’s exactly what I want you to do. Quote your source with a direct link to the interview.
What's your bet on JJ vs Alex Pereira? How do you think it goes?

Alex said he will beat Tom firstly if that's what it takes to fight JJ. JJ wants to fight Alex but Jones said he doesn't want to fight Tom, who he deemed as equally as dangerous as Alex Pereira but with lower rewards (less name, less $).

Alex said he'd beat Tom to get to JJ if JJ guaranteed him a fight. Jon Jones liked the interview and said "give us what we want already, that fight can be for a BMF belt, Alex doesn't need to fight anyone else before". Alex said though he wants to get the third belt as a goal, that he studied Aspinall and he wants to beat Tom before JJ so they can fight for " the #1 pfp currently".

Problem though is that Dana White is being a tool and avoiding to talk about JJ vs Alex. Tom said he has 3 more fights and he will won't keep in the UFC. Tom said "I'm not a gladiator like some fights, fighting with big crowds makes me nervous, it's not a natural thing and I don't want to have cognitive issues". Dana was keen on making Alex vs Tom if Tom beats Gane, as he said it's be a good fight and that it would be cool seeing Alex perhaps getting a third belt (which he said he believes he will)...

but Dana said "no, JJ vs Alex won't happen. I mean, they're big guys, grown up dudes, so if they piss me off, then I might make this fight. Joe Rogan and DC were pissing me off so much already saying that's the fight to make... The problem is that if I put on a fight date, the venue and Jon Jones ends up not doing it after all, then that's a lot of investment lost. Alex wants to fight him but if JJ ends up not fighting, Alex said he would fight whoever, even after getting the HW belt in case he beats Tom, he'd drop to 205 and fight Khamzat Chimaev, Jiri Prochazka again... He wants to fight only, and he's full violence. It's risky to count on JJ if I can't be 100% sure that he will make it to the ring in the set date. And the funny thing is that Alex is the richest fighter in the UFC, he doesn't need the money for the fight. No one even wants to fight Jon Jones unless there is a belt. So Alex can beat anyone, is the richest fighter, but he's wanting to fight JJ and that's not for money nor for belt as he would have the belt. No one ever wanted to or would call Jon Jones putting a belt on the line all while being already filthy rich. That's interesting. They both are unique and killers".
 

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