Super-Saiya-Jin is not a multiplier

Fantastische Hure

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& limit of your normal power is reached after you become a Super-Saiya-Jin. Goku never became more power-full after Namek in his normal state. Same goes for Super-Saiya-Jin after you become a Super-Saiya-Jin 2.

These are facts. (I think)
 

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Base Trunks blows away Imperfect Cell with a Kiai. Cell agrees he's gotten stronger (or more skilled as he says in the Japanese version) before Trunks turns Super Saiyan
 

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What's the point of Gokuu training in base if it doesn't make his base stronger? Ya L famalam
 

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Training his physical-health is all. Nothing to do with upping his ki. Fail

He wouldn't be training with weights if he was just training his health. Weight training is strength training. Didn't you take PE in school? Kek

The stronger you are, the higher your Ki is. Ya L famalam
 

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Gohan explicitly confirms he got stronger in his base form from swinging the Z Sword.

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Gohan was hoping for it. Akira Toriyama said there is a limit to physical-strength which is where Ki comes-in. Fail
 

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Gohan was hoping for it. Akira Toriyama said there is a limit to physical-strength which is where Ki comes-in. Fail

Actual translation courtesy of Herms

Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P5.2-4
Context: when the Z Sword breaks, after Gohan trained with it for a day
Gohan: “But…thanks to that, my arm strength has increased a lot.

Hold the L famalam.
 

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Are you being stupid or are you just that way. Arm means physical, not ki.

Kaioushin responds

Kaioshin: “I-I get it…If he’s acquired that much power in his regular state, then if he becomes a Super Saiyan it will become an even more substantial power-up…!

More physical strength = more power.
More power = more Ki.

Ya L fammy fam
 

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Yeah, because Kaio-Shin’s word (who has been wrong multiple times) over-rides Akira Toriyama’s words. *roll eyes*
 

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What are the requirements for becoming strong?
There are physical limits to the strength of the body itself, so in order to overcome that barrier, it’s necessary to increase your “ki”. Normally, the more you increase your ki, the harder it is to control, so ki control is also important.

Fail or in your words L

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Nowhere did Toriyama say they stopped getting stronger in base. Hold the L fammy fam
 

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First you said that physical-power equals Ki and then you moved-on from that to some-thing-else when you were exposed. Keep it up (plz).
 
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