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Toriyama obviously means full blooded Earthlings
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He nearly one shotted Gotenks Boo.
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It is pretty absurd that he ended up weaker than Krillin after how hard he trained. Tenshinhan blew Krillin out of the water in all of part 1 DB, then somehow Krillin got ahead even though Tenshinhan got to train with Kaio for so long.
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Took a few dozen tries but he got there!!
Well they weren't far off each other during the Saiyan arc despite the massive gap that existed in the 23rd, so you could handwave it saying Kuririn had more untapped potential. It's true if I were writing the series I'd give Ten the upper hand just because he earned his power more than Kuririn did.
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Because in Japanese, Ginyu is also a "human." In the sense that he is a sentient lifeform. The term used in the interview is literally "Earthling," not the broader category of human:
Translations | Tenka'ichi Densetsu - Toriyama x Koyama x Nozawa
An interview from "Tenka'ichi Densetsu" with Dragon Ball author Akira Toriyama, series organizer Takao Koyama, and Son Goku voice actress Masako Nozawa.
www.kanzenshuu.com
So all those quotes mean nothing. Earthling is only inclusive of full-blooded Earthlings without alien heritage.
Gohan is undoubtedly far above the earthlings and faster, having high enough battle power to turn SSJ within a short while in the Rosat (not to mention having a stronger flight aura than the Earthlings). These roles don't mean anything considering that.
^Gohan has the same flight aura as Piccolo while all the Earthlings have the weaker fire-shaped aura.
And before you say Ten was faster, he was in front of Kuririn before they flew to Goku's rescue. The positions just were kept the same:
That just means Kuririn is a bigger whiner. Ten also said he was freezing his ass off, plus as late as DBS we see Goku and Vegeta wearing coats. That scene was just to indicate the Namekians have better cold tolerance, it's hardly a power statement.
Again, a species issue. Piccolo said clearly that "It must be inconvenient to be an Earthling." Is Piccolo stronger than Oob because he could tolerate the cold better? Physiology, brah.
Just means Kuririn is a coward. Also like I said, Ten and the others weren't even with Kuririn when Gero took him as a non-threat. And again, considering that Gero and #19 can take hits from SSJs, nothing would be different if Ten was the one in that scene. You're looking waaaay too deep into this to twist it into a power statement.
When is this again? Are we talking about the #17 fight? Lol, Ten only "outlasted" anyone because #17 knew he'd die from one hit and choked him out instead, and it took him longer to nearly suffocate. Trunks being two-shotted was literally the only feat to be mentioned of note, Ten was just complete fodder that can't even compare to the soles of Piccolo's feet in that instance. If #17 had killing intent Ten would have been dead in one hit.
Lol, Ten is NOT above tired Goku brah. Guy isn't even touching pre-fusion Piccolo let alone any post Rosat SSJ, tired or not. This is like saying Ten could take post-Final Flash fatigued Grade 2 Vegeta. Even sick SSJ Goku pre-Rosat is worlds above Ten.
Kuririn is also similarly a pussy, particularly after his second death against Freeza. This isn't even remotely power related, otherwise Freeza is weaker than Roshi and anyone else who sacrificed himself considering how cowardly he became in the face of death
Again, is Kuririn even in that scene? I can't be fucked to read the chapter, so inform me if he is.
Toriyama literally said he can change and establish anything he wants as the original author. His interview >> your out of context cherrypicking.
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Ten's partly alien.
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Yes, but Ten's also partly alien. Krillin > every regular human.Because in Japanese, Ginyu is also a "human." In the sense that he is a sentient lifeform. The term used in the interview is literally "Earthling," not the broader category of human:
Translations | Tenka'ichi Densetsu - Toriyama x Koyama x Nozawa
An interview from "Tenka'ichi Densetsu" with Dragon Ball author Akira Toriyama, series organizer Takao Koyama, and Son Goku voice actress Masako Nozawa.
So all those quotes mean nothing. Earthling is only inclusive of full-blooded Earthlings without alien heritage.
Babidi went on his way calling Gohan "Earthling", if you want that work, you'd have of believing Krillin > Gohan. Otherwise becomes faulty:
Chapter: 459 (DBZ 265), P2.2-3
Badidi: “How about it, Dabra? Just to be sure, do you have confidence that you can defeat that Earthling [Gohan]?”
Dabra: “Naturally. I fought him a little bit before, after all. There’s no doubt that I can take care of trash like that.”
Yes, but Piccolo went telling Gohan and Krillin to told him or Vegeta to come if they found Gero which Ten wasn't included. That means they're the least capable.Gohan is undoubtedly far above the earthlings and faster, having high enough battle power to turn SSJ within a short while in the Rosat (not to mention having a stronger flight aura than the Earthlings). These roles don't mean anything considering that.
^Gohan has the same flight aura as Piccolo while all the Earthlings have the weaker fire-shaped aura.
And before you say Ten was faster, he was in front of Kuririn before they flew to Goku's rescue. The positions just were kept the same:
Yamcha telling them that to Krillin and Gohan when the context ever since the start of the situation is "if you're not strong enough, better not come".
Have we seen him on cold temperatures struggling? You've reached so far because you're unable to watch things from a quality > quantity perspective nor think logically.
Yes, but why precisely him, why on all situations they make the less of him? Krillin's always who gets the worse, Krillin's always who they see as less, he even doubted to even going on the situation, while Ten discarded his partner just because was not apt for fighting. Krillin also was pointing on how terrible Android 19 were even if things have changed, Ten went entering on a SSJ tier fight, Trunks mention him as one who was on the fight and lost on a way to say how Androids are strong, you can't hardly do anything about it.
Except 17 took down SSJ Trunks on one blow, then he two shotted Piccolo, on his mind, everyone was risky for her sister if they come allied, he was trying finishing the job as fast as possible.
He was taking hits from mini Cell, just shows how much of a durability he have. Without mentioning, Cell evolved too much from Semi to Perfect form. Now that I think about it, Ten should be around 80% of Piccolo Pre. You could tell Goku's power simply decreased that much. That's something you concluded from the thin-air.
Except Frieza's astute and opportunist, Krillin's pathetic and a coward. Plus, Frieza among U7 fighters was one of the biggest fish, nobody treats Krillin on same regard.Kuririn is also similarly a pussy, particularly after his second death against Freeza. This isn't even remotely power related, otherwise Freeza is weaker than Roshi and anyone else who sacrificed himself considering how cowardly he became in the face of death
No, he ain't included due to how irrelevant he is. Ten's among the main characters, even though, Krillin had gotten far more protagonism ever since Namek.
Yes, but he needs to script that on his material, otherwise you can check if goes according to it or not, specially when he was one who said he constantly forgot his work.
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Damn, this is a nice pickup. When you see the attention to detail he does like for things like this, this dude is a genius, confirmed, right?
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What about BoG, RoF, and ToP?
Those are non-canon in my heart. My priority is to make a good PL list for DBZ, then I'll see what I'll do with non-canon bs.
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Your DBZ list shouldn't contradict those future stories though.
I have no problem if it does.
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