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Toriyama obviously means full blooded EarthlingsSo are Gohan, Androids, etc. Krillin ain't stronger than the cast of Earthlings.
Toriyama obviously means full blooded EarthlingsSo are Gohan, Androids, etc. Krillin ain't stronger than the cast of Earthlings.
He nearly one shotted Gotenks Boo.How so? Ten has zero feats aside from stalling Semi with a technique that amplifies his strength to plot breaking levels, and even then, the Daizenshuu states the Kikoho is like a glorified Kiai.
He nearly one shotted Gotenks Boo.
Well they weren't far off each other during the Saiyan arc despite the massive gap that existed in the 23rd, so you could handwave it saying Kuririn had more untapped potential. It's true if I were writing the series I'd give Ten the upper hand just because he earned his power more than Kuririn did.It is pretty absurd that he ended up weaker than Krillin after how hard he trained. Tenshinhan blew Krillin out of the water in all of part 1 DB, then somehow Krillin got ahead even though Tenshinhan got to train with Kaio for so long.
This's actually reaching, Gohan's part Earthling too. Goku refers of himself as human:
Goku: “No…I’m no longer a human who’s particularly even supposed to be here…I shouldn’t be the one to do it. It’d be better for these young guys to solve things somehow or another…After all, some other outrageous guy might show up eventually, right? …It's a nasty gamble, but…Seeing those two super-gifted squirts, it made me want to take this gamble…”
Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2
Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara
Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged"
Gohan is undoubtedly far above the earthlings and faster, having high enough battle power to turn SSJ within a short while in the Rosat (not to mention having a stronger flight aura than the Earthlings). These roles don't mean anything considering that.Yes, because he's the one less capable, the one who's medicaster, the one less apt on fighting. Not mentioning Yamcha even said to Gohan and Krillin of how strong those foes were, Yamcha and Krillin are rellegated with Gohan while Ten's with Goku and Piccolo, not much of thinking about it from rational fan lenses.
That just means Kuririn is a bigger whiner. Ten also said he was freezing his ass off, plus as late as DBS we see Goku and Vegeta wearing coats. That scene was just to indicate the Namekians have better cold tolerance, it's hardly a power statement.Yes, but Krillin was beginng for money. You could also tell that between different species have their ways of tolerating temperature different than others.
Again, a species issue. Piccolo said clearly that "It must be inconvenient to be an Earthling." Is Piccolo stronger than Oob because he could tolerate the cold better? Physiology, brah.If Piccolo have tolerance for cold temperatures and was complaining for how practical humans were, who are we to say how works or if it doesn't work for power levels?
Just means Kuririn is a coward. Also like I said, Ten and the others weren't even with Kuririn when Gero took him as a non-threat. And again, considering that Gero and #19 can take hits from SSJs, nothing would be different if Ten was the one in that scene. You're looking waaaay too deep into this to twist it into a power statement.Yes, and he signaling precisely at him, shows how non-threating he was in relation of others. The pattern repeated with how Krillin asked everyone to run away when 17 & 18 were discussing with Gero, while Vegeta said he's the most prepared for the situation, non-ironically, Vegeta's strongest on the group.
When is this again? Are we talking about the #17 fight? Lol, Ten only "outlasted" anyone because #17 knew he'd die from one hit and choked him out instead, and it took him longer to nearly suffocate. Trunks being two-shotted was literally the only feat to be mentioned of note, Ten was just complete fodder that can't even compare to the soles of Piccolo's feet in that instance. If #17 had killing intent Ten would have been dead in one hit.Ten went outlasting SSJ Trunks, of course he's not stronger than Trunks, but still strong enough to resist enough time so Piccolo and Vegeta could come on aid. Krillin doesn't have anything similar to that, sorry.
This without mentioning during the mini Cells fight, Ten have one knee lifted unlike Yamcha, Krillin or tired Goku. And Goku mentioning how strong mini Cells were in spite of their size.
Kuririn is also similarly a pussy, particularly after his second death against Freeza. This isn't even remotely power related, otherwise Freeza is weaker than Roshi and anyone else who sacrificed himself considering how cowardly he became in the face of deathGohan is one scared kid who doesn't thought of him much other than his high potential, this is a repeated pattern from his persona since Saiyan ~ Cell saga.
Again, is Kuririn even in that scene? I can't be fucked to read the chapter, so inform me if he is.
Yes, but we understand easier how Krillin would be useless too, more useless than them. Otherwise, we would have Krillin saying it or even being there among big dudes.
Toriyama literally said he can change and establish anything he wants as the original author. His interview >> your out of context cherrypicking.Akira Toriyama's word only works when he clarifies something stated on the series or acknowledge it, even then, literature-wise he's not one who have authority to decide over the material when he have scripted their rules and logics on said matter.
Ten's partly alien.Toriyama obviously means full blooded Earthlings
Yes, but Ten's also partly alien. Krillin > every regular human.Because in Japanese, Ginyu is also a "human." In the sense that he is a sentient lifeform. The term used in the interview is literally "Earthling," not the broader category of human:
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Translations | Tenka'ichi Densetsu - Toriyama x Koyama x Nozawa
An interview from "Tenka'ichi Densetsu" with Dragon Ball author Akira Toriyama, series organizer Takao Koyama, and Son Goku voice actress Masako Nozawa.www.kanzenshuu.com
So all those quotes mean nothing. Earthling is only inclusive of full-blooded Earthlings without alien heritage.
Yes, but Piccolo went telling Gohan and Krillin to told him or Vegeta to come if they found Gero which Ten wasn't included. That means they're the least capable.Gohan is undoubtedly far above the earthlings and faster, having high enough battle power to turn SSJ within a short while in the Rosat (not to mention having a stronger flight aura than the Earthlings). These roles don't mean anything considering that.
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^Gohan has the same flight aura as Piccolo while all the Earthlings have the weaker fire-shaped aura.
And before you say Ten was faster, he was in front of Kuririn before they flew to Goku's rescue. The positions just were kept the same:
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That just means Kuririn is a bigger whiner. Ten also said he was freezing his ass off, plus as late as DBS we see Goku and Vegeta wearing coats. That scene was just to indicate the Namekians have better cold tolerance, it's hardly a power statement.
Have we seen him on cold temperatures struggling? You've reached so far because you're unable to watch things from a quality > quantity perspective nor think logically.Again, a species issue. Piccolo said clearly that "It must be inconvenient to be an Earthling." Is Piccolo stronger than Oob because he could tolerate the cold better? Physiology, brah.
Yes, but why precisely him, why on all situations they make the less of him? Krillin's always who gets the worse, Krillin's always who they see as less, he even doubted to even going on the situation, while Ten discarded his partner just because was not apt for fighting. Krillin also was pointing on how terrible Android 19 were even if things have changed, Ten went entering on a SSJ tier fight, Trunks mention him as one who was on the fight and lost on a way to say how Androids are strong, you can't hardly do anything about it.Just means Kuririn is a coward. Also like I said, Ten and the others weren't even with Kuririn when Gero took him as a non-threat. And again, considering that Gero and #19 can take hits from SSJs, nothing would be different if Ten was the one in that scene. You're looking waaaay too deep into this to twist it into a power statement.
Except 17 took down SSJ Trunks on one blow, then he two shotted Piccolo, on his mind, everyone was risky for her sister if they come allied, he was trying finishing the job as fast as possible.When is this again? Are we talking about the #17 fight? Lol, Ten only "outlasted" anyone because #17 knew he'd die from one hit and choked him out instead, and it took him longer to nearly suffocate. Trunks being two-shotted was literally the only feat to be mentioned of note, Ten was just complete fodder that can't even compare to the soles of Piccolo's feet in that instance. If #17 had killing intent Ten would have been dead in one hit.
He was taking hits from mini Cell, just shows how much of a durability he have. Without mentioning, Cell evolved too much from Semi to Perfect form. Now that I think about it, Ten should be around 80% of Piccolo Pre. You could tell Goku's power simply decreased that much. That's something you concluded from the thin-air.Lol, Ten is NOT above tired Goku brah. Guy isn't even touching pre-fusion Piccolo let alone any post Rosat SSJ, tired or not. This is like saying Ten could take post-Final Flash fatigued Grade 2 Vegeta. Even sick SSJ Goku pre-Rosat is worlds above Ten.
Except Frieza's astute and opportunist, Krillin's pathetic and a coward. Plus, Frieza among U7 fighters was one of the biggest fish, nobody treats Krillin on same regard.Kuririn is also similarly a pussy, particularly after his second death against Freeza. This isn't even remotely power related, otherwise Freeza is weaker than Roshi and anyone else who sacrificed himself considering how cowardly he became in the face of death![]()
No, he ain't included due to how irrelevant he is. Ten's among the main characters, even though, Krillin had gotten far more protagonism ever since Namek.Again, is Kuririn even in that scene? I can't be fucked to read the chapter, so inform me if he is.
Yes, but he needs to script that on his material, otherwise you can check if goes according to it or not, specially when he was one who said he constantly forgot his work.Toriyama literally said he can change and establish anything he wants as the original author. His interview >> your out of context cherrypicking.
Damn, this is a nice pickup. When you see the attention to detail he does like for things like this, this dude is a genius, confirmed, right?^Gohan has the same flight aura as Piccolo while all the Earthlings have the weaker fire-shaped aura.
What about BoG, RoF, and ToP?Buu Saga
Krillin - 6,000,000
Tenshinhan - 5,500,000
EOZ Saga
Krillin - 6,000,000
Tenshinhan - 6,000,000
Those are non-canon in my heart. My priority is to make a good PL list for DBZ, then I'll see what I'll do with non-canon bs.What about BoG, RoF, and ToP?
Those are non-canon in my heart. My priority is to make a good PL list for DBZ, then I'll see what I'll do with non-canon bs.
I have no problem if it does.Your DBZ list shouldn't contradict those future stories though.