The Scientifically Perfect Power Level List (Including Daima but not Super and GT)

Reference

SSJ Namek Goku = 150

100% Freeza = 140



The Future

Future Android #17 (Less than half) = 200

- Full Power = 500


Future Android #18 = 480



SSJ Future Gohan = 180

- Post 1 Year = 225



Android arc

SSJ Goku = 300

SSJ Future Trunks = 240

Mecha Freeza = 160

King Cold = 100


3 Years Later


Android #16 = 3,750

Android #17 = 750

Android #18 = 720



SSJ Vegeta = 500



SSJ Goku (Sick) = 360

- Condition Worsened = 180

- Healthy = 480


SSJ Trunks = 450


Piccolo = 375


Android #20 = 200

- With Energy = 300


Android #19 = 180

- With Energy = 270



Cell arc


Imperfect Cell (Gingertown) = 600

- Post Absorptions = 3,750

- Semi Perfect (Initial) = 7,500

- Full Power = 9,375

- Perfect (Initial) = 14,000

- Warming Up = 30,000

- Buffed = 45,000



SSJ Vegeta (Time Chamber) = 10,000

- Grade 2 = 15,000

- Final Flash = 45,000



SSJ Trunks (Time Chamber) = 9,600

- Grade 2 = 14,400

- Grade 3 = 36,000


MSSJ Goku (Time Chamber, 50%) = 30,000



Android #16 = 3,750



Weighted Kamiccolo = 675

- Unweighted = 750

- Light Grenade = 1,875



Android #17 = 750

- Barrier = 1,500


Android #18 = 720



Cell Games


MSSJ Gohan = 90,000

- Raged SSJ2 = 288,000



Cell (vs Goku) = 66,000

- vs Gohan = 90,000

- Full Power = 135,000

- Beyond Limits = 168,750

- Super Perfect = 270,000



MSSJ Goku = 60,000

- Fatigued = 22,500


Cell Juniors = 45,000


SSJ Vegeta = 45,000


SSJ Trunks = 45,000


Piccolo = 27,000



Fat Boo arc


Base Gotenks = 700,000

- SSJ = 1,750,000



Base Goku = 2,000

- SSJ = 100,000

- SSJ2 = 300,000

- SSJ3 = 1,500,000



Fat Boo (Initial) = 250,000

- Powered Up = 375,000

- Further Powered Up = 800,000

- Full Power = 1,250,000



Base Vegeta = 1,500

- SSJ = 75,000

- SSJ2 = 225,000

- Majin SSJ2 = 300,000

- Self Destruct = 900,000


Evil Boo = 750,000


Good Boo = 500,000



Base Gohan = 1,125

- SSJ = 56,250

- SSJ2 = 168,750



Majin Dabura (Initial/Goku's Expectation) = 135,000

- Full Magic Power = 168,750



Shin = 45,000


Base Trunks = 720

- SSJ = 36,000



Base Goten = 700

- SSJ = 35,000


Piccolo = 30,000


Majin Yakon = 2,000


Android #18 = 720


Majin Pui Pui = 500



Super Boo arc


Base Vegetto = 100,000,000

- SSJ = 250,000,000



Super Boo = 40,000,000

- Gotenks Absorbed = 80,000,000

- Gohan Absorbed = 100,000,000



Ultimate Gohan = 60,000,000



Base Gotenks (Time Chamber) = 2,000,000

- SSJ = 5,000,000

- SSJ2 = 10,000,000

- SSJ3 = 40,000,000



Kibitoshin = 225,000



Kid Boo arc


SSJ3 Goku = 1,500,000

- Genkidama = 15,000,000


Kid Boo = 1,500,000


Good Boo = 500,000

SSJ2 Vegeta = 300,000



DB Daima


Adult Goku (Fatigued) = 3,000,000

- SSJ = 7,500,000

- SSJ2 = 15,000,000

- SSJ3 = 60,000,000

- SSJ4 = 120,000,000



Base Gomah = 50,000

- With Eye (Initial) = 1,250,000

- Powered Up = 3,000,000

- Further Powered Up = 60,000,000

- Further Powered Up = 90,000,000



Adult Vegeta (Fatigued) = 3,000,000

- SSJ = 7,500,000

- SSJ2 = 15,000,000

- Ultra Vegeta 1 = 60,000,000



Mini Base Goku = 48,000

- SSJ = 120,000

- SSJ2 = 240,000

- SSJ3 = 960,000

- Fatigued SSJ4 = 1,920,000



Mini Base Vegeta = 48,000

- SSJ = 120,000

- SSJ2 = 240,000

- Ultra Vegeta 1= 960,000



Majin Duu (Initial) = 240,000

- Post Sweets = 300,000

- More Sweets, SSJ3 = 960,000



Tamagami #1 = 280,000



Tamagami #2 (Initial) = 225,000

- Neva Power Up = 270,000



Tamagami #3 = 180,000


Pre Majin Dabura = 80,000


Abura (Without Eye) = 64,000



Majin Kuu = 50,000



Glorio (Initial/Goku's Expectation) = 32,000

- Serious = 36,000

- Full Magic Power = 48,000


Mini Piccolo = 45,000


Mini Shin = 30,000


Degusu = 30,000


Arinsu = 30,000


Previous Majin = 25,000


Ginyu Force Parody = 22,500

@SIAD @GSM123 @Power Level Guy

I hope you win the Nobel-Prize for this.

I can get behind SSJ Vegeta > Initial Semi, but I think having FP Semi still weaker than SSJs makes him too weak. If you have SSJ2 = 3x why not make Grade 2 = 2x? Something like this:

Semi Cell: 7.5
~ FP: 9.375

SSJ Vegeta: 7.5
~ Grade 2: 15

I’m not sure what to make of Daima yet. I didn’t want its scaling to contradict Super or GT, and having Goku and Vegeta within a year of the Boo Saga feels wrong. This seems to be the most likely scenario, though.

GSM123 said:

I can get behind SSJ Vegeta > Initial Semi, but I think having FP Semi still weaker than SSJs makes him too weak. If you have SSJ2 = 3x why not make Grade 2 = 2x? Something like this:

Semi Cell: 7.5
~ FP: 9.375

SSJ Vegeta: 7.5
~ Grade 2: 15

I’m not sure what to make of Daima yet. I didn’t want its scaling to contradict Super or GT, and having Goku and Vegeta within a year of the Boo Saga feels wrong. This seems to be the most likely scenario, though.

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Nothing contradicts FP Semi Cell being equal to or even weaker than SSJs though. Knowing Vegeta he probably just wanted to show off and humiliate Cell by using Grade 2.

Animelover5487 said:

Nothing contradicts FP Semi Cell being equal to or even weaker than SSJs though. Knowing Vegeta he probably just wanted to show off and humiliate Cell by using Grade 2.

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Not criticing your list nor saying you're wrong, but what'd you make of Super Vegeta telling Cell a great gap has opened with his training after taking his punch and Trunks needing Grade 2 form to catch Cell?

AngelBorninHell said:

Not criticing your list nor saying you're wrong, but what'd you make of Super Vegeta telling Cell a great gap has opened with his training after taking his punch and Trunks needing Grade 2 form to catch Cell?

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Semi Cell had a big headstart. You need a significant power gap to blitz as shown when Goku couldn't catch up to Nappa without Kaioken so rivals can't blitz each other.

When I get home I’ll check it out

To begin I want to see, I'm very impressed by your list. The level of detail and care you've put into it is certainly respectable. I agree with majority of it, but here are some of the issues I've ran into in the past that I believe will force you to rework parts of your list. I will bring up the issues, but also from now on when I critique lists, I will also provide possible solutions as well.

This is a minor one, but something to think of.

SSJ Vegeta = Future 18

This seems to be likely. Trunks is blown away by Vegeta's ability to keep up with 18, assuming that she's just as powerful as his own 18. Vegeta and Present 18 basically have a perfectly equal fight and Piccolo and Trunks view of the fight is that they are equals.

It's minor, but I believe in it. This would wreak havoc on your list because the way you have it is quite clean. Not sure what I would do here.

Vegeta 500
Trunk 450
Piccolo 375
Yardrat Goku 300
Trunks 240
Gohan 225
Future 17 200
Future 18 180
Mecha Freeza 160
Goku Namek 150
Freeza 140
King Cold 100

Is a legit work of art. I've held onto many of these gaps and numbers myself. These numbers are GOATED for a list that follows the Daizenshuu's suggestion of Goku being at 3 million. I can prove a millon ways how 3,000,000 is an inaccurate number, but we should have a great list that uses that set just for the fandom.

Honestly, don't know what I would do to resolve that, you'll have to think about it, but it really should be Future 18 = SSJ Vegeta, not Future 17. Perhaps you can make them equals?

I would encourage you to make Present 18 a bit weaker. 720 to Present 17's 750 is too close for me.

I think 700 is more appropriate, heck 675 is probably best.

I like 90% gap personally, you could do this...

Future 18 500/ Future 17 550

Future 17 initially is 36% of FP 17, which should be fine, seeing as he wouldn't be able to say, "1/3 of my FP"


Your Android 19/20 levels need a lot of work. You should raise initial 19/20 up higher.

Your going to run into some serious consistency problems here with tanking gaps and so on... This segment took me a tremendously long time to figure out.

You are going to have massive problems with Grade 3 Goku > Semi-Perfect Cell. You are going to be forced to power Goku up tremendously, which doesn't seem likely at all.

A 3.75x boost for 480 Goku is 1,800, this is where you have Light Grenade, let alone Imperfect Cell, let alone Semi-Perfect Cell.

This is the key area I would like to harp on here before we move forward.

You are nerfing Grade 2 and Grade 3. We have guidebooks suggesting 10x from EML for Grade 3, but I believe that translation had error. Gotta look into that.

But Grade 2 and Grade 3 are large, significant boosts. You are going to have to accurately portray them to make everything work out better.

Power Level Guy said:

To begin I want to see, I'm very impressed by your list. The level of detail and care you've put into it is certainly respectable. I agree with majority of it, but here are some of the issues I've ran into in the past that I believe will force you to rework parts of your list. I will bring up the issues, but also from now on when I critique lists, I will also provide possible solutions as well.

This is a minor one, but something to think of.

SSJ Vegeta = Future 18

This seems to be likely. Trunks is blown away by Vegeta's ability to keep up with 18, assuming that she's just as powerful as his own 18. Vegeta and Present 18 basically have a perfectly equal fight and Piccolo and Trunks view of the fight is that they are equals.

It's minor, but I believe in it. This would wreak havoc on your list because the way you have it is quite clean. Not sure what I would do here.

Vegeta 500
Trunk 450
Piccolo 375
Yardrat Goku 300
Trunks 240
Gohan 225
Future 17 200
Future 18 180
Mecha Freeza 160
Goku Namek 150
Freeza 140
King Cold 100

Is a legit work of art. I've held onto many of these gaps and numbers myself. These numbers are GOATED for a list that follows the Daizenshuu's suggestion of Goku being at 3 million. I can prove a millon ways how 3,000,000 is an inaccurate number, but we should have a great list that uses that set just for the fandom.

Honestly, don't know what I would do to resolve that, you'll have to think about it, but it really should be Future 18 = SSJ Vegeta, not Future 17. Perhaps you can make them equals?

I would encourage you to make Present 18 a bit weaker. 720 to Present 17's 750 is too close for me.

I think 700 is more appropriate, heck 675 is probably best.

I like 90% gap personally, you could do this...

Future 18 500/ Future 17 550

Future 17 initially is 36% of FP 17, which should be fine, seeing as he wouldn't be able to say, "1/3 of my FP"


Your Android 19/20 levels need a lot of work. You should raise initial 19/20 up higher.

Your going to run into some serious consistency problems here with tanking gaps and so on... This segment took me a tremendously long time to figure out.

You are going to have massive problems with Grade 3 Goku > Semi-Perfect Cell. You are going to be forced to power Goku up tremendously, which doesn't seem likely at all.

A 3.75x boost for 480 Goku is 1,800, this is where you have Light Grenade, let alone Imperfect Cell, let alone Semi-Perfect Cell.

This is the key area I would like to harp on here before we move forward.

You are nerfing Grade 2 and Grade 3. We have guidebooks suggesting 10x from EML for Grade 3, but I believe that translation had error. Gotta look into that.

But Grade 2 and Grade 3 are large, significant boosts. You are going to have to accurately portray them to make everything work out better.

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The main issue I have with Grade 2 and Grade 3 being such large boosts is that Base Goten/Trunks are roughly equal to 18 at the tournament meaning they are only 50x stronger than her as Super Saiyans, abd they aren't toooo far from the Adult Saiyans. After their time Chamber training which was only 15 days, they are atleast Cell Junior level.

Also I never said I fully subscribed to Namek Goku being 3 million. SSJ Namek Goku being at 150 is just a baseline reference, if I were to make powrr levels for the Freeza arc from scratch, Goku would be way more than 3 million but I wanted to have my cake and eat it too by not making a full Freeza arc list while keeping a representation of that iconic 150 number for SSJ Goku.

Animelover5487 said:

The main issue I have with Grade 2 and Grade 3 being such large boosts is that Base Goten/Trunks are roughly equal to 18 at the tournament meaning they are only 50x stronger than her as Super Saiyans, abd they aren't toooo far from the Adult Saiyans. After their time Chamber training which was only 15 days, they are atleast Cell Junior level.

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Yeah, that's why I don't go with Grade 3 being 10x, it makes the MSSJs too strong. That's a funny issue to have ain't it? Where we have to actively keep the SSJs from being 100-150x stronger than Android 18 lol

But yeah, welcome to hell. You are going to have to figure out a way to make that work. Try my boosts, they work.

Grade 2 = 2x SSJ
Grade 3 = 6x SSJ

It'll make your situation much better for sure.