Nappa Arc Power Levels

ahill1 said:

So, where do you have Piccolo and the suicide attack?

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Not sure, trying to figure it out. There's no room. Here's how I want to do it.

Piccolo 2,000
Self Destruct 2,400
Kikoho 3,200
Masenko 3,750
Nappa 4,000

This feels so much better.

Yeah but it'd need to ignore the scouter numbers. Does Masenko need to be > Kikoho?

Btw it's tricky anyways because if Piccolo thought the Kikoho would have killed Nappa, then he would have needed to be sensing Nappa's powers in off ways. Like, he can sense that Nappa is >> him but he can't sense the power Nappa was displaying there accurately? Why can he sense the Kikoho accurately though?

Maybe it goes back to Nappa not being able to power up in the traditional sense like the Z warriors. We assume that a scouter would read Nappa as his full power (~ 7,500) but that sensing chi is trickier. Like, Nappa isn't suppressing but at the same time, is masking his full power from natural chi sensors in a different way than warriors who can control their power would. Maybe similar to how chi sensors can have a more real feel when the opponent is fighting rather than just staying around.

It's like, Nappa was fighting but, by not using full effort, natural chi sensing can't feel his power so accurately as when Nappa/Vegeta really tries, flexing their muscles and using all the abilities, instead of fighting in a more casual level. But still, since Nappa isn't suppressing his chi in the same way the Z warriors could, it's possible that the power he is displaying effort wise, which why Piccolo and co. could sense, isn't totally proportional to Nappa's durability. If it's more of an effort thing rather than a real suppression as in, lowering his chi to that level in specific, it could be argued his durability could still reflect something closer to his full power instead of the level they can sense him at.

ahill1 said:

Yeah but it'd need to ignore the scouter numbers. Does Masenko need to be > Kikoho

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Yeah, I mean, don't you already for BoZ?

ahill1 said:

Btw it's tricky anyways because if Piccolo thought the Kikoho would have killed Nappa, then he would have needed to be sensing Nappa's powers in off ways. Like, he can sense that Nappa is >> him but he can't sense the power Nappa was displaying there accurately? Why can he sense the Kikoho accurately though?

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Yeah, he can't sense Nappa accurately.

ahill1 said:

Maybe it goes back to Nappa not being able to power up in the traditional sense like the Z warriors. We assume that a scouter would read Nappa as his full power (~ 7,500) but that sensing chi is trickier. Like, Nappa isn't suppressing but at the same time, is masking his full power from natural chi sensors in a different way than warriors who can control their power would. Maybe similar to how chi sensors can have a more real feel when the opponent is fighting rather than just staying around.

It's like, Nappa was fighting but, by not using full effort, natural chi sensing can't feel his power so accurately as when Nappa/Vegeta really tries, flexing their muscles and using all the abilities, instead of fighting in a more casual level. But still, since Nappa isn't suppressing his chi in the same way the Z warriors could, it's possible that the power he is displaying effort wise, which why Piccolo and co. could sense, isn't totally proportional to Nappa's durability. If it's more of an effort thing rather than a real suppression as in, lowering his chi to that level in specific, it could be argued his durability could still reflect something closer to his full power instead of the level they can sense him at.

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Just plot.

I just told P we should give Chaozu’s explosion a number just to give him some respect, now look at where it led us…

GSM123 said:

I just told P we should give Chaozu’s explosion a number just to give him some respect, now look at where it led us…

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Is that what started this all?

Nappa:

• 3,200 (Initial)
• 4,000~ (Power-up)
• 6,000~ (Full Power)

DBZAOTA482 said:

Nappa:

• 3,200 (Initial)
• 4,000~ (Power-up)
• 6,000~ (Full Power)

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Initial is 2,500 I feel and FP is 8k he has significant speed fears against Goku.

Power Level Guy said:

Initial is 2,500 I feel and FP is 8k he has significant speed fears against Goku.

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Are you saying he's 2,500 directly after landing on earth, or after he powers up to fight the whole group?

SSJ2 said:

Are you saying he's 2,500 directly after landing on earth, or after he powers up to fight the whole group?

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I think that initial blast before he powers up is 2,500 or so