Krillin vs Blue vs Goku

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After rereading Dragon Ball, I've come to realize that we've been shortchanging the gap between these 3.

Krillin was easily taken out by Jackie Chun at the Budokai, and Blue although toying, seems to be around a similar level to Jackie, albeit probably a bit weaker. Now Goku easily handles Blue, to a point where Krillin thinks Goku must have powered up since the Budokai to be able to perform the feat.

I think Blue can one shot Krillin if he tried and Goku does one shot Blue, but he had his off guard for a little because he poked his eyes. Either way, I think if Goku hits him that hard minus the eye poke, he still does the same amount of damage.

The gaps are this big in Dragon Ball and we've never noticed.

Krillin 100
Blue 150
Goku (21st Budokai) 160
Goku (Post Muscle Tower) 225

This also confirms Goku indeed got a zenkai after being hit with General White's Hyper Gun.
 

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So how much effort was Blue putting out when he was fighting Krillin?
 

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So how much effort was Blue putting out when he was fighting Krillin?
Blue appears to be putting out less effort than Jackie is using against Krillin. And Jackie ends up doing less damage.

Is it a huge deal? No. Of course not. But if I am aware of it, I might as well have an answer to the question if it was ever posed to me which gap was bigger.

Clearly Blue's gap must be bigger considering he is using less effort and doing more damage. But are in the "can't see" range, but one is a bit higher than the other.

I'm not entirely sure how to go about it.

If we intend on keeping Blue at 1.5x Krillin, then that would mean we'd have to reduce Jackie's advantage a bit.

Let me see how that would work.

If Krillin is 66% of Blue, perhaps Krillin should be 70% of Jackie.

Hmm...

That would bring Krillin down a bit of his top power at the Budokai. Which is fine...


Krillin 112
Jackie 120
Jackie Power 140
Jackie Speed 160

Ok, now let's try Krillin. I'll use Krillin's new power of 160...


Krillin 160
Blue Power 200
Blue Speed 240

Ok, this is looking pretty good. I think I'm within range...

Krillin is 80% of the power in Jackie's punch, which could make sense when compared with Pirate Robot when we calculate for damage. The movement wouldn't be on par at all, but the damage might be similar... I'll have to look into that more...

Jackie's power is 87.5% of his speed. Which seems reasonable considering the effort he's put in.

Ok, now on to Blue. Blue's power is only 83% of his speed, which is a reduction to what Jackie is doing. Perhaps more spacing is needed, 80% would probably be really ideal.

And Krillin is 80% of Blue's power. Which is the same as the gap between him and Jackie's power, which means it's wrong. Hmm, I think if we move Jackie's power down a bit more, but that's tough because bro really did get sent flying.... Hmmm

Blue does same massive damage to Krillin, that's gotta be 75% I'd say.

The issue is to make Blue use very little effort to do a punch that's 1.33x Krillin won't be possible imo if Blue is only 1.5x. We have to up him a bit I think...

Let me try this...

Krillin 180
Blue Power 240
Blue Speed 300

Ok, this is looking perfect now. Krillin is 75% of Blue's punch, Blue's power is 80% of Blue's Speed. And Krillin is overall 60% of Blue, making Blue a bit stronger...

Let's try Jackie now. Now that we've upped Blue's advantage, we can bring Jackie's advantage back to 1.5x and see how that works first.

Krillin 112
Jackie 120
Jackie Power 140
Jackie Speed 168

Krillin is 80% of Jackie's power, which is 83% of Jackie's speed. That's too far. Let's bring Jackie back down to where he was before and then I think we got something.


Krillin 112
Jackie 120
Jackie Power 140
Jackie Speed 160

Krillin is 80% of Jackie's power, which is good. This is still a huge gap as indicated, but it's clearly a tighter gap than what Blue had on Krillin. Krillin was only 75% of Blue's power. Ok, so we've established a difference of power which is 100% indicated on Krillin's end due to the damage received.

Jackie's Power is 87.5% of his speed. Which is probably perfect. Jackie makes it clear his punch was not all that power, so it has to be a reduction from his 100% power, but it also must be close enough because it's using more effort than Blue.

Hmm, I think this is definitely some good work. I can see some slight tweaking needing to be done, but this is a huge leap forward here.


Krillin is 75% of Blue's punch and 80% of Jackie's punch.

Blue is using 80% of his power and Jackie is using 87.5% of his power. Which solves the second problem of Jackie using more effort than Blue. The other problem being Krillin takes more damage from Blue than Jackie.

Damn, I think I got it...

If you made it this far, you deserve an award, this must look like the workings of a complete madman. Haha
 

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Nah just the workings of an autist. Anyway I think Blue was going all put against Kuririn and I am not sure it was necessarily a 1.5x gap since Kuririn was able to give Blue a nosebleed with one kick. Blue was distracted by Kuririn's afterimage sure but Kuririn shouldn't be doing that much damage if the gap is that large.
 

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After rereading Dragon Ball, I've come to realize that we've been shortchanging the gap between these 3.

Krillin was easily taken out by Jackie Chun at the Budokai, and Blue although toying, seems to be around a similar level to Jackie, albeit probably a bit weaker. Now Goku easily handles Blue, to a point where Krillin thinks Goku must have powered up since the Budokai to be able to perform the feat.

I think Blue can one shot Krillin if he tried and Goku does one shot Blue, but he had his off guard for a little because he poked his eyes. Either way, I think if Goku hits him that hard minus the eye poke, he still does the same amount of damage.

The gaps are this big in Dragon Ball and we've never noticed.

Krillin 100
Blue 150
Goku (21st Budokai) 160
Goku (Post Muscle Tower) 225

This also confirms Goku indeed got a zenkai after being hit with General White's Hyper Gun.
21st TB Goku/Roshi - 150
21st TB Krillin - 112
RR Saga Krillin - 112
Blue - 150
Goku (post 21st TB) - 160
Goku (post Muscle Tower) - 180
 

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