Loki vs Roger and Whitebeard

Future Warrior · Feb 18, 2026

Considering he fucked up HK Harald, I think he has a good shot of taking this

SSJ2 · Feb 19, 2026

I'd still go with the duo for now. Gaban and a much weaker Shanks were able to fight with Harald somewhat, and Gaban is relatively far from Pirate King tier. Plus Roger and WB seemingly have the top tier Haki that we've seen aside from Joyboy.

Future Warrior · Feb 19, 2026

SSJ2 said:
I'd still go with the duo for now. Gaban and a much weaker Shanks were able to fight with Harald somewhat, and Gaban is relatively far from Pirate King tier. Plus Roger and WB seemingly have the top tier Haki that we've seen aside from Joyboy.

You think Holy Knight Harald is below Roger? I can’t see him being much below Demonic Rocks, if at all.

SSJ2 · Feb 19, 2026

I guess I'm still going with Roger/WB not quite being at their peak at God Valley. Roger only just discovered the new Haki technique there, I doubt he had it mastered.

Future Warrior · Feb 19, 2026

SSJ2 said:
I guess I'm still going with Roger/WB not quite being at their peak at God Valley. Roger only just discovered the new Haki technique there, I doubt he had it mastered.

I guess that is still possible, though it's worth mentioning that a magazine says Whitebeard reached prime 2 years after God Valley (age 38).

SSJ2 · Feb 19, 2026

Roger and Garp did beat Rocks with that new Haki though, although Rocks was basically letting himself get killed to be fair.

Future Warrior · Feb 19, 2026

Is it new Haki? I don't know if concentrating your Haki in an all or nothing attack is a new technique.

SSJ2 · Feb 19, 2026

Well at the very least they talk about surpassing Advanced Haoshoku, so it's a level beyond that. Until we see Loki using that level of haki I'd go with the team.

Future Warrior · Feb 19, 2026

SSJ2 said:
Well at the very least they talk about surpassing Advanced Haoshoku, so it's a level beyond that. Until we see Loki using that level of haki I'd go with the team.

What about 1v1?

SSJ2 · Feb 20, 2026

That's hard to say right now. Loki's devil fruit is clearly top tier, like how the hell do you even fight that? But then again he did lose to Shanks 6 years ago so I guess Roger or WB still take it individually.

Future Warrior · Feb 20, 2026

I think it’s almost certain that Loki is above Luffy right now. Worth noting that Gerd said he’s months away from recovery right now so he’s gonna be nerfed.

SSJ2 · Feb 20, 2026

I think it all comes down to how Oda wants to portray things. I can't see him having Luffy being outdone this late in the game. They might be equals and parallel Rocks/Harald.

SSJ2 · Feb 27, 2026

Loki might actually take this after seeing his devil fruit. I have no idea how he lost to Shanks with this level of offensive power.

Future Warrior · Feb 27, 2026

SSJ2 said:
Loki might actually take this after seeing his devil fruit. I have no idea how he lost to Shanks with this level of offensive power.

We don’t know what actually went down. Could be another misdirect.

SSJ2 · Feb 27, 2026

Will be curious to see how Luffy reacts to Loki's power. So far he doesn't seem to be bothered by it.

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