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Just going regular SSJ seemed to make him insane. I get that that's the appeal of his character, but I just wish his hatred for Goku could be more justified than "damn this low class made me cry, what a defeat! Must hate him for the better part of 30+ years!"

I wish I could block shit from my memory like you. Unfortunately my memory outside of old school shit in classes I completed years ago is practically photographic

You think he can beat Lucci or Zoro?

So where's Crocodile in the midst of this? He's clearly inferior to Mihawk in combat prowess, but Mihawk didn't take him lightly or try to boss him around in their partnership. Has Crocodile been upgraded to Yonko's first mate tier?

Mihawk is undefeated so Oda will probably make him stronger.

Movie 10 is even more cringe than Movie 11. I think the worst offenders of said cringe in M10 were the base Gohan vs. Broly scene (they couldn't just make them both SSJ1 for this?) and Broly shielding himself from lava that Goku survived in anime filler on Namek as if that would have seriously...

Oneshotting them all is an SSJ2 tier feat. I hope no one thinks Goku or Gohan can oneshot-kill Vegeta in the CG.

Given that Gohan basically had less than a month to train seriously due to Video's interference and managed to get up to Dabura's level (who's comparable to PC), I have trouble believing he'd need to strain himself to block a Cell Jr's blows. In the CG he'd mop the floor with multiple Cell Jr's...

I think if they remembered it Goku would've used it more than as a single burst against Rild lol

Eh at least they know SSJ2 is a better form than 3. GT writers didn't even realize that form existed.

The only reason I follow the SEG multipliers is because there's nothing else that's official and the people who write Super probably follow them. But in the context of the Cell Games I can't see SSJ2 only being 2x at all.

Yeah in the CG SSJ2 definitely didn't look like a 2x boost. I honestly think whoever came up with the SEG multipliers (even supposing it was AT) didn't examine the shown gaps thoroughly. And in the case of AT writing it... that was when he thought SSJ3 was SSJ2 lol. :alex2

Boo's already seen Fusion cause Goten and Trunks' powers to skyrocket and was convinced a Fusion of two stronger people wouldn't match him when he's maybe double Gotenks' power at best. It's pure arrogance. The fact that Boo even had to fight Kid Boo to realize he can't win shows that he is...

Super Boo was convinced Potara Fusion would be useless while not even being 2x Gohan's power. Villains being excited to fight strong opponents doesn't really mean jack in a series like DB where every villain is arrogant as all getout. For instance, Freeza never acknowledged Goku as the superior...

I'm in agreeance that he held back effort and wasn't trying to end Boo, but the fact that the fight was even and that Goku was severely drained afterwards casts doubt that the gap is large at all. It just has to be that - large enough for Goku to be sure he can win with a full power blast...

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I don't even remember any of Zoro's big finishers besides Asura or whatever it was called. What made Enma different?

The manga depicted SSJ Goten as enough to pressure SSJ Gohan so much he had to fly to avoid his blows. I'm not convinced they're on Cell Junior level because a bad fanfic artist-turned-mangaka and an AT who probably doesn't remember Super Saiyan 3 ok'd a depiction where they fought Cell Juniors.

Sounds like a Gear 4 situation. Luffy had no reason to reserve it against the fishmen iirc.