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  1. Papasmurf

    Goku 3000 Kiri

    1.3 million >>>>>> SSJ Vegetto :ha :ha :ha
  2. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    I'm just bored at work because I don't have the motivation to work on a project in a work environment I don't feel that comfortable in and can do it over the weekend. I normally don't hyperanalyze DB that much since I'm more focused on working and the gym nowadays
  3. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    I'm Kenshi lol, my name was changed as a meme
  4. Papasmurf

    What do you think about my NEW Cell Saga- Early Buu Saga gaps?

    When did SSJ Gohan fight in public prior to Dabura tho?
  5. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    Vegeta didn't "hold his own decently" in the manga at all, he just spammed a bunch of Ki blasts at Kid Boo that only blew him up since Kid Boo seems to have durability that's low even for a Boo with Good Boo being able to blow apart half his body with one handed blasts, etc. Other than the...
  6. Papasmurf

    Base Gogeta vs. Ikari Broly

    Can Gogeta beat Ikari Broly within 30 minutes without his SSJ forms?
  7. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    In Super Yamoshi couldn't KO a bunch of Oozarus as a Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan God in time according to Shenlong's account of the legend of the SSJ/SSJG, I'm not sure being ganged up on is as easy to handle in Super as it is in Z. After all Merged Zamasu logically should be able to solo 2...
  8. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    How tired can Vegeta be? He was training in a gravity level that SSJ Trunks can waltz around like nothing, and we see Gohan and Goten training their asses off with their auras up straight after Videl leaves for Satan City with Gohan visibly strained. Also it's worth considering that it was a 7...
  9. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    The boys are on Cell Games SSJ tier and Goku and Vegeta still aren't above SSJ2 Gohan (CG and pre-Z Sword) as SSJs even by the end of Boo (pre-Super/EoZ). That isn't a gigantic gap, you'd have to stretch that relatively small gap into insane gaps when the two pairs are in their respective...
  10. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    I think AT probably ran with Potara Fusion being far above the Dance Fusion in Z going by how much Old Kai insists the Potara has greater effects, the base form of Potara is insanely powerful because of how astounding the Potara is and so on. But in Super he seems to have Vegetto not too far...
  11. Papasmurf

    Goku 3000 Kiri

    Maybe in the anime canon, experiencing Potara Fusion increases your base abilities. It's kind of telling that Goku became able to stalemate a Hit stronger than the one he fought in the ToP in regular SSJB despite needing Kaioken x 10 in the U6 arc, after experiencing a second fusion as Vegetto...
  12. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    Yeah some people had retarded theories like Gotenks post having a more perfected fusion dance or something but I think that's BS since Gogeta could go SSJ even with newbie fusees even in Fusion Reborn and had a Blue tier base in Broly, while Gotenks couldn't even turn SSJ at will pre-RoSaT and...
  13. Papasmurf

    Goku 3000 Kiri

    Tbh the anime writers don't even seem to remember/factor in the shit they added into the anime into their own canon, because in the Perfect Files it says Goku hardly ever used SSJ2, only using it against Vegeta and showing it to Fat Boo (which is only the case in the manga since he also used it...
  14. Papasmurf

    Base Kibito vs 4th Form Coola

    So what made Kaioshit not shit his pants when he sensed SSJ2 Gohan, while being astounded by base Vegeta 30 minutes later? His balls rose back up into his pelvis or what?
  15. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    So you think Vegetto would've been weaker than Gohan-Boo in SSJ1 if Goku had not unlocked SSJ3? Also what's your reasoning for base Gotenks appearing to get huge gains post-Rosat even though Goten and Trunks did not gain more transformations? Just due to SSJ mastery/unlocking SSJ2 and 3?
  16. Papasmurf

    Goku 3000 Kiri

    Yeah if you go by story beats Gohan being SSJ2 makes more sense, since Kaioshit says Kibito can't fathom the kind of power that the Saiyans showed while he was dead (and Kaioshit didn't even see SSJ2 Goku/was already near death when Majin Vegeta arrived to fight Boo), but at the same time Goku...
  17. Papasmurf

    Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

    In Super Gogeta says his power is more than just the addition of the two fusees' powers rather than saying "I'm stronger than Blue even in my normal form" though. Although both the Super manga and anime (at least in Kefla's case) and the Broly movie seem to support Vegetto/Gogeta/Kefla being...
  18. Papasmurf

    Goku 3000 Kiri

    Dabura logically would have to be over 3000 Kiri, but he's also shown to be illogically and delusionally arrogant since SSJ2 Gohan filled up less than half of Boo's meter and so Boo should be able to kill him with ease just based on the Ki he absorbed to become free from his shell alone, and he...
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    Base Kibito vs 4th Form Coola

    Kibito would get oneshotted by either SSJ or SSJ2 Gohan even in the Budokai.

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