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  1. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    Depends, tbh. Angemon's feats are wildly inconsistent so it's hard to judge what level Devimon was in while he was in that black gears form, exactly. On one hand, Angemon needing to gather everyone's digivolution power suggests he was above a lot of Ultimates (Perfects), but there's scenes like...
  2. Papasmurf

    does digimon have the best...

    If the new Adventure reboot ends by next year, I want it to flash forward to the 02 generation at the end because having another Adventure continuity retread after we just got through an Adventure continuity retread would be repetitive. Would be better if we just see a glimpse of it like the...
  3. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    This was before his deaths became a meme :CC
  4. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    I think MetalEtemon might be above Pinnochimon when considering his dark spirits deluxe attack did fatal damage to a Mega in a single attack, but Pinnochimon has the advantage in his home terrain due to that giant mechanoid of his mansion being seemingly above even WarGreymon. I'd probably put...
  5. Papasmurf

    does digimon have the best...

    tri's first two movies sold well in theaters, I think one of the remaining four might have sold well as well (the 4th one maybe, because that was the only movie that wasn't complete shit). The fifth and sixth movies totally bombed, but for how horrendous they were the sales might as well have...
  6. Papasmurf

    does digimon have the best...

    I don't think the target audience excuse holds up since Adventure came out 2 years before Tamers did and tri and Kizuna both sold well even though only Kizuna was any good at all. Tamers just doesn't have the same marketing potential because most of the Digimon fans who didn't begin with the...
  7. Papasmurf

    does digimon have the best...

    Yeah the guy who sang Brave Heart and all of the Adventure digivolution songs was the GOAT for insert songs, too bad he didn't participate in Tamers. Savers' first opening was sung by some cocksucker who wasn't anywhere near the level of godliness that Koji Wada was and it took away from the...
  8. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    Yeah it is enough to best normal Ultimates, but stronger Ultimates like Vamdemon are too much for him and Megas can defeat him with ease.
  9. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    Mugendramon one-shotted him with his two cannons in the first episode the Dark Masters appeared in, forgot if he did anything to him when they fought him for real in that factory city since I didn't like that portion much. Angemon did his Heaven's Knuckle combined with Angewomon's Holy Arrow but...
  10. Papasmurf

    does digimon have the best...

    I think Koji Wada's songs are usually great (esp Butter-fly) but AiM's songs are hit or miss, mostly because she has the same voice as Mimi who is a 10 year old, sometimes too high pitched for my liking. My favorite endings are Itsumo Itsudemo and the second Tamers ending. I didn't like the...
  11. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    02 seems to consider Angewomon to be stronger than Angemon because of her level difference but Adventure was inconsistent as f with that, he got oneshotted by Mugendramon and couldn't do jack against VenomVamdemon but actually managed to land a hit against Piemon somehow when WarGreymon was...
  12. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    That's why I called it an excuse. If it was fully justifiable I'd call it an explanation :king I don't think speed feats are that consistent anywho, you have Imperialdramon being unable to avoid a blast of fire that Silphymon could dodge, albeit he was on the ground and she was in mid-air but...
  13. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    They kind of did when they said Angemon's attacks aren't very effective against Digimon who aren't "dark types." Kind of an excuse to nerf him for 02 to prevent him from outshining Ultimates but yeah, it was mentioned.
  14. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    Oh. Then Paildramon would definitely lose, in his first two Digivolutions he got knocked out by Mummymon's blaster and let Arukenimon land a hit or two on him. Vamdemon would laugh that shit off, he even took on WereGarurumon and Angemon together at the same time, and after a few days he even...
  15. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    And I absolutely hate using tri as an argument because it's the biggest failure that Toei ever produced alongside some other horrible spin offs for series and Part 2 OP filler.
  16. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    Digimon series in general. In 02 the two forms of Imperialdramon (not counting Paladin Mode) weren't that far apart in terms of fighting prowess, and the narrator even said that Fighter Mode only had increased attack power which probably means he sacrificed speed for attacking power. I doubt...
  17. Papasmurf

    BelialVamdemon vs Apocalymon

    Well a lot of that could be attributed to the fact that Digimon power chains aren't that terribly consistent, Togemon for example fought an Ultimate and won in her first appearance, yet needed to go Ultimate herself just to beat a Champion like DarkTyrannomon :cena WarGreymon fought Apocalymon...
  18. Papasmurf

    BelialVamdemon vs Apocalymon

    HolyAngemon cut up Piemon's handkerchief trick and then cut him (probably with the handkerchief blocking Piemon's line of sight). It proves he's a very strong Ultimate but doesn't prove he is high Mega level. In terms of hand to hand combat I'd say he's Pinnochimon's level or so. Let's not...
  19. Papasmurf

    BelialVamdemon vs Apocalymon

    HolyAngemon was there, but he couldn't really do anything because Apocalymon was either immune to his Heaven's Gate or too big to fit inside lol.
  20. Papasmurf

    Imperialdramon: Dragon-Mode vs Vamdemon

    Yeah it got nerfed compared to the original Digimon Series lore. Toei does its own power chains independent of the main series, which is why Imperialdramon Fighter still struggles with the same opponents Dragon struggled with. In magazines released around the time of the 02 era, Fighter Mode...

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