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No, Beerus said the opposite. Vegeta is arrogant.

So you're those who believe kids are very strong with sparring lessons? Lmao. May take everything that happens at face value. Freeza was an emperor of the universe, kids had barely any training, Trunks couldn't walk in 150G while Vegeta with less than 10M powermlevel could. Maybe someone will...

Lol base Saiyans are < Freeza as proven by Beerus'. How tf is he strong than Piccolo? That's being against author intent. Take what the author said in the movie. That's why your power level list had many flaws, ignoring direct statements and implications.

Gotenks should be like 3x above Goku, nothing more. That's kinda noob list

Your MO is using guidebooks lmao. Take facts from the manga itself otherwise it'll expose you as even more noob. That's a very noob move using outdated guidebooks

Hmm I see you've good logic and have done a lot of reading and researching way more than I expected. With the earthlings, the guidebook that gave Krillin a power level for the Freeza saga put him at 75,000. And he got his potential unlocked the the Elder of Namek. As an adult, I don't believe...

What's your stand for his strength?

So you base M12 Gogeta out of what?

Trunke Saga Why have all the Earthlings so strong? It's not like they were ever implied to make big gains training with Kaio. Why is android 19 that strong? Even without absorptions? Even gaining a lot Vegeta said they weren't as bad as Trunks told them. They should be below the Trunks who...

Still triggered you can't disprove Buugohan saying they won't beat him even if they fuse. Manga > guidebooks. Are guidebooks AT's head? No? Ohhhhh shiiit

Still triggered you can't disprove Buugohan saying they won't beat him even if they fuse. Manga > guidebooks. Are guidebooks AT's head? No? Ohhhhh shiiit

Guides mean as most as the shit I take everyday. Indeed, who cares about shitty guides. Learn!!

Oh yeah Buugohan was wrong with Vegito, now he's wrong with every prediction. Right... Villians show denialism many times among the battles when their blood are hot. Not comparable to Buugohan analysing the potential power of a fusion he wasn't in a fight with. It's like saying Mecha Frieza was...

Buu with Gohan absorbed statement Goku would be no match if he fused with the power he just sensed, Vegeta. Now does the user called Bedroom Bully know more about dragon ball than the actual character? You ignored a straight fact likely because you love Gogeta. I mean, I understand that...

No, I can see you made them weak for the starting numbers to work, and the implied statements to be applied correctly. But the rest, I think it's 98% off.

I think SSJ Goten would win. I think fans underestimate the kid. Had stupid people arguing they were weaker than normal level Goku 3M who fought Freeza but that's a lowball, huge lowball. Everything makes no sense

I've tried this manga actually. I dropped by the chapter 100 since the king annoyed me. Always so on his own, and still always smart in a way that remembered me Kurapika from HxH which I hate the character. So I thought hmm cool story but I don't want to see anything from this king anymore it...

SSJ Gogeta <<<< Bootenks. SSJ3 Gogeta is still < Boo-Gohan

Those power levels are really weird and off for a guy named power level guy. Have seen better ones on youtube from Vegito1089 and even those were bad