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Did Goku know about it or he just learned of Veggie having the form when the latter showed it to him?

Chapter: 443 (DBZ 249), P9.1-3 Context: as Gohan prepares to fight Kibito Gohan: “Man, this is a predicament. Bulma told me that if people found out my true power, there'd be a big commotion and it'd become hard for me to go to school anywhere. That's why I disguised myself, but...He doesn’t...

These points were made by Voice_of_Reason from neoseeker, showing Gohan was a SSJ2 against Dabra. How would you counter them? Dabura is established to be at Cell's level of power: Dabura's blast lands clean on Gohan, knocking him into the sea. Yet aside from his clothing being tattered, he...

This seems to imply he could: ^Goku said Gohan was still holding back.

Here's the thread: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/60309429?page=3

Who wins?

According to the Herms translations, Vegeta said these Androids/Cyborgs don't give off any presence at all: Chapter: 364 (DBZ 170), P10.1 Vegeta: “One of those guys with mysterious, absurdly large battle powers has vanished…But the other one remains…It’s not No.17 or the other androids. They...

When Piccolo Junior was introduced in the 23rd Budokai he didn't seem so tall: Look at Piccolo compared to the competitors. He looks pretty small: Look at him compared to the announcer: Look at him several years later, during Mecha Freeza arrival: He seems way more mature too...

How strong is he? Pre and post potential unlock.

How strong do you think they are? Do you think an exaggeration to have base Goku and Vegeta approaching Perfect Cell tier?

While rereading the Freeza saga, I noted something. Vegeta's response to why he is now ahead of Cui is because he went through continuously real battles, referring to more than just the Earth battle. This could imply the Earth battle wasn't the only one which put Vegeta ahead of Cui. Besides...

Was it already shown? Doflamingo's eyes?

The format was inspired in an old Captain Cadaver's list, but the numbers are mine. Non-scouters, of course. Son Goku Saga Son Goku-40 Bulma-4 Bear Bandit-25 Kame Sen'nin-120 Oolong-3 Puar-2.7 Yamcha-36 Son Goku (Hungry)-35 Yamcha (Rogafufuken)-42 Son Goku (Hungrier)-33 Gyu Mao-70 Chi Chi-27...

Who wins? This is Kuririn who fought 23k Ginyu-Goku against Vegeta when he arrived on Namek.

Did you guys like the fight? I found Chrollo new designer very bad.

When Kuririn was about to kill Vegeta (he didn't), Kaio said: Was he referring to Freeza?

Cell stated "You have gotten a lot stronger..." after getting blown away from the city by base Trunks' kiai. If one interpret it literally, it could indicate Trunks >>/>>> SSJ Trunks (Mecha Freeza saga) - considering Cell has data of him.

Who wins?

Could Kuririn and Yamcha from the 23rd Budokai working together take out young Piccolo Daimao?

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